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It is technical jargon. We're all seeing what's happening & to think Iran won't respond is beyond naive. youtu.be/Sy6kR_MuIAQ

It’s an act of war definitely. He USA has not declared war but who knows maybe Iran has. It’s all just shitty word games.

Fuck off

It's fairly Orwellian. This crap started with Vietnam, I believe. Congress never approved our "participation" there ( I think we took over when the French left) so technically the Vietnam war was not a "war", it was a "conflict" or something.

Milosevic in the 90's also claimed that Serbia was not at war either :-)

“We are not at war with Iran; we have always been at war with Iran.”

When you have an administration with out a single person of credibility, you are stuck with JD Vance selling bullshit to the American people. He is so popular he is sure to win over the public 🙄

Oh, so friendly bombs were dropped???

Vance has to be Americas biggest jerk off

"No, we're not at war. We drop 30,000 pound bombs on countries without declaring war. If we declare war in the old-fashioned way, they would be ready for the attack. So we let Netanyahu knock out their defenses, then our brave troops could fly in unmolested. We are heroes."

Putin's invasion of Ukraine is not called war in Russia either. Looks like Donald is using the same playbook.

Wait, what, legislative approval before military action? Do people still do that? english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-...

Wait, what, legislative approval before military action? Do people still do that? english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-...

He could call it a Special Military Operation 😒

Of course they just lie. If we bomb another country it is an act of war dumb ass.

After 9-11 we were at war with "terror".

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Hey dumbass Vamce. We are at war the very second you attacked another country. This was NOT a target of opportunity. This was nuclear infrastructure of a country's sovereignty. You have already declared war by your actions. I hope their first ICBMs hits you first.

Japan wasn't at war with America when it bombed Pearl Harbor and killed 2400 Americans. It was just at war with America's naval program.

* Vance’s “unconscious Projections” * * Vance: I empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East. I understand the concern, but the difference is that back then “we” had dumb presidents * www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI-K...

Never mind the hall pass: “ Broad Immunity “

Yeah, I’m not saying his claim has merit! I’m saying it’s rhetoric.

His special terrifying characteristic is blatantly lying with sneering contempt with cartoon-like absurdity. Make no mistake: he is 100% aware— hyperaware— that he’s relaying false talking points. He’s enjoying playing a cartoon villain. It’s sick.

SCOTUS says point is true AND current majority nullifies the legitimacy of their rulings re rol/justice. A dangerous calculated political agenda runs majority vote. They amplify/empower unchecked king/oligarch ruled America. Rol is twisted to suppress votes remove rights for abs pwr/oppressive rule

As usual, you're ignoring the point. The question is are we at war with the country we bombed. The answer given was we are at war with a target the size of a kitchen appliance. America first is for morons.

Democratic strategist: "Trump did not need congressional approval for one precision attack under the circumstances, just as Obama did not when striking Bin Laden. Why can’t our Party just say it’s great we achieved the objective and destroyed Iran’s nuclear sites"

JD also knows that Trump is "America's Hitler", and that in America all people (not just citizens) are entitled to due process of law, but JD has trained himself to ignore what he knows.

he seems to know so little about almost everything -- he should know, but does he and if he does, does he care?

Why not call it a „special military operation“, like Russia which is also not at war with Ukraine (they say)?

On par with Vance’s “they’re eating the dogs they’re eating the cats”. He never apologized to his own constituents.

I was listening early on CNN this morn and Berman said: The constitution does give the power to declare war to congress but that is a power that has been massaged over the years and stepped on and it has been decades and decades since congress has voted on this type of thing.

An excuse that both parties in Congress have been bolstering for Presidents for decades We all know that any President can start a war anytime they want to. There could be a little fallout if they decided to bomb Britain or something but there is nothing to stop them

What a fucking, bootlicker, lickspittle, little couch fucker

If it happened here it would sure as hell be called war.

Idiot

Repeat: bombing a foreign country is an act of war.

A worn out excuse with no basis in reality

I’m no military scholar but I’m pretty sure that dropping bunker buster bombs and launching cruise missiles at a sovereign country is war. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/war

Involved in a “special military exercise”, perhaps? As with everything they do, it’s a war of semantics.

They don’t need a declaration but they need a Congressional resolution to use force which was NOT obtained!!!

I’m pretty sure that if Iran dropped a 30,000 pound bomb on top of Vance’s washing machine, the US would take it as a sign of war.

Q: What did Hideki Tojo say on December 8, 1941? A: We are not at war with the US, Pearl Harbor was merely a preemptive strike.

The White House is riddled with people who will litigate in court & in the court of public opinion by playing the semantics game. Evil, the banality of evil, bc every fucking lawyer thinks it’s a justified way to present & will watch this shit like it’s a goddamned football game.

It’s a спец операция (special operation, how they call it in the Kremlin)

Soviet logic

Yes. Perhaps some air quotes around war. But this is what presidents historically have done, eg police actions, etc

Funny JD, Iran seems to think we are.

"special military operation"

It’s technicality bs 😡

They send there sons to kill then they say that is not there son anymore. remember the past.

I have heard that logic to claim the Vietnam war wasn't a war.

Civ? 4th century?

The US is a vassal state of Israel at the moment. Not great.

“He had it coming. He only had himself to blame.”

For those unfamiliar:

It’s sparkling heavy arms conflict. Obvs.

ANYTHING ON FOX IS AN EXCUSE

Do you really think that Trump gives dam? He is an autocrat. Nobody business what he does. He really don't gives a DAM.

If you are waiting for Congress to declare war, don't hold your breath. History suggests you are wasting your time. Congress hasn't declared war since December 1941. Every President since then has ignored the fragile Constitution. The Mango Mussolini will do what he likes, as usual.

To Vance... you lie!

2016, watched a PBS interview w a state dept insider "the main difference between Hillary & trump is I have witnessed her opinion change after listening to knowing US experts in high stakes affairs. Donald has ZERO capacity to hold back ESPECIALLY when nuclear ☢️ is an option. He's a clear danger."

Claiming we're not at war with someone upon whom we are dropping bombs is pure horseshit

So if we didn’t declare war, that means we just committed a terrorist attack.

Actually, bombing a country is not an act of peace.

Funny I thought the 🍊🤡 used the word “war”. The two really need to get on the same page.

Just another example of them trying to get away with any lie. And they will get away with it if they are not met with resistance. The media is complicit to the crimes.

Then there is that saying, "Better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission." This "wanna be king" does neither!

One of their strengths is redefining things in defiance of the plain meaning of the words.

It's a "special military operation", of course.

“I’m not a war criminal, honest!”

When they allowed or supported gaslighting on other topics, it was only inevitable that at some stage there would be gaslighting about war and worse.

I liked it better when we weren’t seeing vance.

#EpsteinCoverup #WagTheDog #MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain

The only product from republicans are treasonous lies.

A dictatorship confusing itself with a democracy...

We’ve heard this before.

WHAT.AN.ASSHAT.

🤦‍♀️

"It's not a war" though it's "bombs away." Oh, have we heard that one before - from the Democrats. And many times.

But wait until they declare that we are in war time and impose martial law here at home. This shit isn’t done in a vacuum. It’s all interconnected.

Well then you assholes should have waited two fucking weeks! Before just take upon yourselves to bong Iran! Stupid!

Trusted he’s proving that by what he is doing now! Horrible

Vance you should pack up and go home!

SCOTUS decreed Trump has immunity for all official acts - thanks a lot SCOTUS, this is ALL ON YOU imbeciles (not Sonia or Ketanji though).

JD is the master of weasel wording. He is the “Weasel Man”.

It's not an excuse: it's a bold-faced lie. You commit an act of war, you're at war. No way is bombing another country's sovereign territory anything other than an act of war - and an illegal, unconstitutional one.

Vance the Hillbilly Algae

BS excuses don’t cut it eyeliner boy.

Postmodern Conservatism will be the death of us all.

It’s Biden’s war 🤨🤨🤦‍♂️

Rewrite: JUST IN IN: VP Vance tells NBC News that the U.S. is "not at war with Iran, we’re at war with Iran’s nuclear program which is run by Iran, so we are not at war with them.

We're not at war; we're just dropping bombs on your heads.

He can't say the magic word without passively admitting they overstepped his authority by miles. This is "alternative truth" 2.0

#USpoli #Trump #IranIsrael #IranIsraelWar #TrumpIsNotFitForOffice #FuckTrump

But because of the Supreme Court ruling that gives him free rein to do whatever he wants- he cannot be tried for this. Am I wrong? What % of GOP supports this action? Can those Senators be impeached for violating their oaths?

“We’re just bombing them.”

Changing the rules again to suit their narrative and actions again. That’s not how it works. They attacked Iran. Period. I say “they” because the majority of “we” Did. Not. Want. This.

DON'T TOUCH OUR BOATS!!!

Or in this case, bombed Livermore and Almagordo

If only Madison and co. had spent a bit more time explaining exactly what "declare" and "make" mean in the context of war.

We're not officially at war, yet

If Iran declares war on the US, would JD still say we are not in a war?

NOT logic — the logical fallacy - red herring or others.

That's really quite clever rhetorical technique: Brush off the question and then slather bullshit all over the next 60 seconds so that there won't be a soundbite of the interviewer's reaction to the brush-off answer.

💯 a dodge for their illegal actions.

Pretty sure Iran doesn’t see it like this…..

Equivocating couch fucker!

I am so utterly done with the word games these criminals play--on the podium, in court, in pressers. Sometime "is" just means "is."

Why doesn't he just come out and call it a Special Military Operation

Its a war dipshit,you think Iran is going to not strike back!

I want the news agencies to report at the beginning of all stories on this war that… We WOULD NOT be here if not for 47 Tearing up the nuclear agreement w/Iran when he was 45!!! This is TRUTH & FACT! EVERY TIME!! EVERY news outlet!! STOP being afraid of no longer being invited to hear more lies!

We are at another dangerous tipping point. And we’re not even a full five months in yet.

Well, if you can't trust the guy who called Trump Hitler, and now calls him Daddy, who can you trust???

Philip Bump is one of the few who can translate Doublespeak.

It’s a “Special Operation…”

Vance’s double talk is insulting, offensive and dangerous.

It depends on what the meaning of "is" is.

This administration actually thinks they are the smart ones and we are the dumb ones.