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Sushi in Japan is for rich tourists and corporate expense accounts, not normal people. At nominal exchange rates (eg tourists), the median American is richer than all but the top 5% of Japanese households, and even adjusting for PPP differences they’re comfortably in the top quartile.

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@evanwch.bsky.social Most Americans think the Cheesecake Factory is a "nice and fancy restaurant" while the French get farm fresh cheese at gas stations and the Japanese get flawless sushi in subway stations BECAUSE US capitalism has kept us poor and abject. So that's for pointing our the problem.

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A Sushiro plate is ¥120, max ¥360 if you go for the black ones. You can eat your fill on ¥2,000, which is ~0.5% of median monthly income. Lmao, even splurging on omakase once a month wouldn't break the average Japanese bank account. This post is a wild overstatement.

Also, yeah, the yen is weak, of course your average American tourist will be top percentile in Japan solely off the exchange rate.

Idk, I went to a place with a sushi conveyor belt and they didn't seem like they saw very many white people and I ate so much sushi I almost puked and the bill was like $20 and it was as good if not better than the $130 omakaze I had in Seattle a couple years ago

Yeah not sure about now with the fish running out and all, but at least a while back there was cheap sushi and expensive sushi and loads of normal people ate kaiten sushi (if not like chez Jiro) on their lunch break. I think this is prob mostly bollocks

Like there are masses of sushi shops all over Japan, who does my man Q think is eating in them? It's just a kinda weird thing to do so confidently state, and has reduced my confidence in everything else he says

I ate at a kaitenzushi place earlier this year that was so good I felt actively guilty for not eating excessively. It was on par with if not better than several of the "best sushi restaurant in this city" type places I've eaten in the US. A bill for 4 people worked out to around 39 dollars.

For me the point here is that a person confidently stating very wrong (and really quite obviously wrong if you have even a modicum of knowledge/experience) things is a good reason to downgrade ones own confidence in the person's statements in general.

I don't think so. This is very cheap for an American, but works out to fairly standard US fast-casual restaurant prices assuming equivalent Japanese purchasing power. What Quantian is doing is keying on the term "flawless" to assume a comparison with high end dining.

I went to Japan with friends who had never been before, we got the Japan Rail Pass (unlimited rides for a week, only available to tourists).

We had a great time visiting several cities and riding the shinkansen, but at one point I had to sit them down and explain "Most Japanese would save up and take one shinkansen ride a year. We've just taken half a dozen. This is not the typical local experience at all."

Also “farm fresh cheese at gas stations” is something you are almost assuredly more likely to find in Wisconsin than in France

I'm concerned this says more about car culture The tiny town where I grew up only had grocery access as part of the convenience store gas station. It has since failed and residents are now 9 miles away from groceries

But this is looking at GDP only. The parent in Texas spends on average 4.5 hours sitting in the car. The Japanese parent has a free range kid who walks himself to school. Japanese is "poorer" but I would prefer it.

I suppose a lot, probably 2.5x the average house price. Maybe more. From what I can tell, walking to school is usually not possible under “modern” zoning. You have to buy a house in a pre war neighborhood, which are in short supply.

“Flawless” is an exaggeratio, but the quality from those in-station stores is very good and compares favorably to typical US restaurant sushi. It’s dirt cheap to an American tourist. If you adjust for the Japanese being a lot poorer, prices are comparable.

”Sushi” is cherry-picking somewhat, though. The US food system isn’t tuned to sushi provision in the same way. Japanese tacos are quite spendy for a contrast. Heck, to pick their French example, to get cheese that isn't a international war crime is kinda pricey in Japan.

Agree with you on sushi and US higher income But the point about US capitalism being bad for consumers is likely correct in some industries, notably Healthcare (also Education, Telecoms, Financial Services) In general US stocks have higher ROE Mgmt. is better; but consumer protection also weaker

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"The U.S. had the lowest life expectancy among peer countries and spent nearly twice as much" (Peterson-KFF) www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collec...

A lot of it comes down to lifestyle choices that aren’t really about capitalism. I don’t think our high rate of gun violence or illegal narcotic consumption is because of capitalism 

Not sure why the healthcare spending statistic is treated as a bad thing. When the average person spends $15k a year for healthcare, it's not like those 15k goes down the drain. It goes to someone else's pocket, especially the physician's. Which is why US physicians get paid the most in the world.

No. If you go to a sit down sushi bar for dinner in Japan, it is going to run you at least ¥10,000 and probably more like ¥20,000, which is a lot of money for a local. Lunches are cheaper, but it is still absolutely an elite experience normal people do not routinely enjoy.

You can get a good amount of sushi in a station for 1100ish yen. 1000-2000 yen will buy you something of surprisingly high quality depending where you are. If you deal-shop, you can go cheaper. That's very cheap in US dollars, but converted into Japanese purchasing power, it's still reasonable.

I went to a meeting in Kobe in February 2025. I had an 8 piece sushi meal in a sit down seafood restaurant. It cost the US equivalent of $10. It was pretty good! It was not the fanciest place, but you could find sushi pretty inexpensive and good. A Kobe steak was different...$$$$