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NEWSMAX: If we take Greenland, can we get out of NATO and stop paying $50 billion a year? REP. RANDY FINE: NATO needs the US a lot more than the US needs NATO. Greenland should be part of the United States.

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This is why idiots shouldn't be in charge. We couldn't win in Vietnam, when we were ALREADY spending more than any country on our military. You think we can win against the entirety of the EU? When 60% of the country disapprove of Trump? When 70% of Gen 7 is against Trump? Madness.

What's the difference between "Greenland should be part of the United States and Canada should be part of the United States"? There's not one. They want an Empire with Trump as Emperor and subjugated people which no say in their own governance.

They trot this imbecile out every day now because he is a pure racist and has no issue saying all of it proud and out loud. I’d love to see Randy cooking in a kitchen 8 hours a day, working a construction site 8 hours a day, and so on. He’s a jackass that started all of the rhetoric.

The facts would say otherwise on NATO. Scary the zero interest in the history of NATO and the peace that the NATO treaty has been able to keep going. 9/11 now totally discarded ?????

Dude doesn’t know how NATO works. There are no dues. Each country is supposed to spend at least 2% of its GDP on defense; & weapons systems should be compatible with NATO systems.

What morons. They don't think it will cost more than $50 billion a year to take, and hold!!!, Greenland? What is wrong with these people? Did they learn nothing about democracy in school?

We need Nato, not Greenland. What makes these assholes think we can just go into countries, take over their resources for ourselves and skip along like we're still America? Someone has to let Putin Jr. that there are consequences.

The framing of NATO needs the US more than the US needs NATO needs to be challenged as well. Membership of NATO and the ability to have US bases in Europe gives the US a jump off point for operations globally and influence over a whole continent. It’s a bargain.

Yes, in January 2026, the editorial board of Dagens Nyheter (Dagens Nyheter) published an editorial arguing that Sweden should consider developing its own nuclear weapons as a potential response to global instability and potential threats from leaders like Donald Trump. www.dn.se/ledare/ingen...

dn.seLedare: Ingen vill diskutera svenska kärnvapen – men vi måsteDet finns ingen anledning att låtsas som att Natomedlemskapet blev som vi hade hoppats. Trump hotar nu inte bara att lämna Europa – han hotar Europa.

This of course is not true. Without NATO we have no agreements in Europe that have allowed us to establish American spy networks in Europe. This is of course on top of the partnership we will not have when trump starts another war and America is attacked because of it.

these folks just keep drinking the orange kool aid. Since he didn’t get to be Pope, he wants to be the President of the US, Venezuela, Greenland and possibly Iran. He can’t even run the US

The loss of logistical capabilities would be astounding. Losing access to all of those ports, airports, air space, rail lines, logistics hubs, etc would be crippling and we couldn't just "take them over" The US military might is solidified in logistics and it's only with NATO that that works.

You can't be an ally and an invader. I would have thought this was obvious. Also, the idea that you'd stop with Greenland is laughable.

"So long Mom, I'm off to drop the bomb, so don't wait up for me... I'll be back when the war is over, an hour and a half by now." (for those who don't recognize this, it's from a Tom Lehrer song about WW III

To all dumbasses like this, if we actually fought NATO the following would likely happen. -Global sanctions -End of trade agreements -Supply loss that would make the Covid shortages look pleasant -Loss of military bases and the benefits involved -Travel bans The losses to us are much higher

"Greenland should be part of the United States" = "Ukraine should be part of Russia" = "Taiwan should be part of China." RIP, principle of self-determination (b. 1919, d. 2026).

Do they not know most of that money is just funding the USAs own military, It is not used for other countries? The US funds only 16 % of NATOs actual operating cost. This is why education and push back is important. The NATO rule is 2%, the US government decided to make their budget astronomical.

NATO, just like the rest of the world, sees what a shit show the US has become under the Trump admin. We’re now equivalent to the creepy, alcoholic neighbor who shows up to parties uninvited and hits on your teenage daughter while ranting about being 86’d from every local bar. NO ONE needs that.

East Anglia Bylines@eastangliabylines.co.uk

Americans are often told the US “subsidises” European defence. In reality, NATO is a system designed to project American power and protect American interests. eastangliabylines.co.uk/opinion/lett...

At one time yes. But NATO doesn't need the US. The US does need NATO. There's a huge border to the north. No NATO, no security agreement.

There was a famous neurological patient known as HM who could only remember things that happened no more than ten minutes previously. I think human culture is a lot like HM with a memory horizon of about 80 years. We simply can't remember what happened before then. It's cultural amnesia.

Rep FINE Just Confessed To An Act Of Treason On Live Television, As Greenland Is A NATO Ally, And That Treaty Is BINDING US LAW Under Art 2, Sec 2, Clause 2... Taking Up Arms Against Any Treaty Is No Different Then Taking Up Arms Against The US Government.

This guy’s another idiot who cannot read a map. Realistically, invading and taking Greenland is NOT close to Arctic compensation for losing the alliance with Canada, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, the UK, France, and others. Unless this “lebensraum” bunch plans on invading them all, too.

Someone should remind that motherfucker the only country that invoked Article 5 of NATO was THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. So, his assumptions are fucking wrong!

The people chosen for RW messaging are so amazingly incompetent that one wonders what human disasters were passed over. Randy should use his socialist health care to find out if his bloat and discoloration are the result of all the booze he houses, or being one Pam Bondi's plantar warts.

Truly, that's some BAD skin. Is Randy just an overgrown child who escaped the House Lost and Found during a tour and has been looking for moisturizer like it's the one true ring? These are supposed to be the tough guys and they all look like something Footface scraped off her ass after CrossFit sex.

This Randy Fine asshole has been all over the place lately... who the hell is he? Why did he become so "important" all of a sudden?

He doesn’t understand how it works. First of all the US can’t be everywhere at once. Military intelligence will dry up. It will take the US years to build up we networks. And what about counterintelligence. It will be a mess.

Then there will be sanctions. A lot of sanctions. The US is dependent on import. That will run dry. Trump will have adjust who he does business with. And beggars can’t be choosers. The economy will implode

We go into Greenland. We have to close every US base in Europe. The EU bans American owned airlines from European air space. Travel restrictions on US citizens are imposed. The European central banks dump dollars and treasuries, and the stock market goes into a tailspin.

So, US needs Greenland. Greenland is part of NATO. But, MAGA logic is that we don't need NATO if we take Greenland? That's some mental gymnastics...

The long term consequences taking Greenland by force will be far higher than 50 billion a year. Rep. Fine is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I want to be part of NATO. I dont want to get out of NATO. I want the rotten regime that is terrorizing our country to get out of our country and go to Russia where it's allegiance lies!

I'm sure 🇨🇦 would love to make Greenland our 4th territory! We're only 26kms (16miles) away from the nearest point! It certainly would make sense geographically. But there's one thing stopping us. We've evolved since the 15th century. The only thing Greenland "should" be, is left the hell alone!

On her part, what a dumb question. Sounds like she really wants to be one of those loser MAGA jabber-jaws influencers on X.

The NATO budget is around $4 billion (2024). That’s what you can save. A drop in the ocean compared to your current $1TN military spending. I doubt your defense budget will decrease if you stand alone. Its true that NATO needs US. But US also needs NATO. It’s a win-win. And don’t take Greenland.

Who cares, in the light of Donny Diaperload announcing he wants to increase the Pentagon’s budget by $500 Billion? So you’re saving $50 billion by spending ~$700 billion? Sounds like dumbfuck MAGA math to me. On brand.

We won’t forget. We won’t forgive. The US has lost all credibility with the Nordic countries. We don’t trust you anymore. We have to find a path of our own. Without the US. And it will cost you.

Their autarky dreams don't take into account being kicked out of their global bases of operation and distrusted by US partners. EU should start flirting with S. Korea, Japan, Australia and Canada about a new alliance, even include some African and S. American countries with good democratic record.