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Totally banal observation, but I do think it’s a good thing that everyone in small Italian towns apparates at around sundown to hang around and say CIAO at each other in the town square while drinking coffee I think this habit is probably good for humans

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Americans often do tend to way over-index on the supposed superiority of European social ways (lol), but like, I do think that in-person socialization is good and us Americans have become really worrisomely bad at getting it in, especially after Covid

You should see how bad the Finns are at this (and the Nordics in general)... There's definitely a North South divide, although I think the Dutch can be an outlier in that regard.

I was in Scotland last week and was out for dinner in Glasgow on a Saturday night - I live in Minneapolis and can't think of a single restaurant here that would have a similar capacity, and it was one of many in the area that was totally packed. Car culture?

This is why I'm pro-city. There are bars, restaurants, office parties and random festivals/cultural events and just good ol' community centre activities at all times. I never felt more alone than I did while I lived in a small town. All you ever see is co-workers and the same handful of people.

When my sister and I were in Melbourne (AU), we took a walk in the Domain every morning, and every person we passed said good morning to us with a smile. We were gobsmacked. It's not just Europeans who are culturally and socially superior to US citizens.

“Many small parks that sell snacks and coffee and wine” is a development pattern I would love to see adopted as a cause célèbre

If I see someone other than my wife in a week it’s usually just passing at a shop or something. It’s hard. It’s very possible to be alone in the middle of crowds.

I used to be a chatty barfly, meeting interesting people regularly. Now I worry about getting into a discussion with someone who thinks vax is bad or AI “superior”.

100 percent! Just came back from there and they’re so much happier and well adjusted. It’s such a civil, caring way to do life. When you get back to the states and see how we do it it’s so jarring.

The best pace I've ever seen was, similarly, a small, ancient village in northern Provence. Sunset and a bit later, the town square was lined with clusters of chairs; old men and women, families. Kids played soccer in the middle. Teenagers flirted. Wine was drunk. Night settled in. Every night

. . . and only the plastic chairs and the modern clothes (and the good health) betrayed that this scene wasn't from, say, the late 16th century, or whenever the abbey construction ended.

i spent a week in a small italian town like an hour north of rome and that they all come out and smoke and drink at a restaurant together is probably better than what ours are doing

The people in Cuba gathered at night in parks with boom boxes, chess games, bevvies. Young couples flirted, women danced together, old men gabbed. It was wonderful. 🇨🇺

The leitmotif of the problem of walking and hobnobbing in a US city is that you often cannot get to the other side of the street on foot.

That's the Italian word (and it worked in Spain too). My daughter went to a summer Italian culture and language camp and they forced all the kids to walk around and eat ice cream every evening. They learned "scioppero" and took over the cafeteria briefly (in humor). Kids. Ragazzi.

when my wife and I were in italy last year for our honeymoon we were just like damn it is so nice to just be in the piazza and drink wine and listen to someone play guitar would love to have more of that in america

I’d be down for trying that here as long as we still said “ciao.” I don’t like the idea of a gaggle of people saying “hi.” Sound like a bunch of birds or something

My experience in Coastal San Diego neighborhoods is lots of people congregate along the seawall around sunset, often with a joint or an adult beverage.

Applies to an extent to big cities too. I was raised in Milan, living in NYC. Seeing my friends when I'm in Milan can be an impromptu day-of decision. In NYC, gotta plan a long time ahead, people work long hours, etc. So people hang out with their friends in Milan way more. Much better for humans.