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While I don’t ride or die for Pete Buttigieg, the vitriol directed at him is completely insane. “When I was younger I wished that I could have taken a pill to turn me straight; but I have accepted and embraced my identity now” is an *extremely* common sentiment from Millennial and older gay people!

Imaginary Fiend@dsaverthandi.bsky.social

When Pete Buttigieg says he would take medicine that makes gay men straight. What do you think is Mr. Buttigieg's attitude towards gays, men and medicine?

“This out gay man who was sixteen years old and living in Indiana when Matthew Shepard was murdered used to wish he could be straight. This proves that he is homophobic.” Do these people hear themselves?

*deep breath* Young people’s ignorance of how homophobic American society was 30 years ago is a welcome sign of progress. Young people’s ignorance of how homophobic American society was 30 years ago is a welcome sign of progress. Young people’s ignorance of how homophobic American society was 30 y

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45 years ago. One of the things we X-gen achieved, besides succeeding in a soft landing of USSR, and crushing apartheid, was to make everyone consider people as people.

I think @cstross.bsky.social's "Glasshouse" is GREAT for "alien levels of cultural acceptance". It is set in a culture that is like "what do you mean I can't be chibiform, nor a centaur, nor have five bodies???" Then it makes *a bunch of those people* become baseline humans with immutable gender!

The message was "It's fine for those guys to be gay with one another over there, but straight guys like us most certainly don't want to be mistaken for gay" and that was genuinely accepting and tolerant compared to the consensus view.

"Ace Ventura: Pet Detective" being mostly forgotten now has been a real boon to Jim Carrey's career. Of course, he's also an anti-vaxxer moron, now, but he could be known as an anti-vaxxer who made one of the most over-the-top transphobic film endings in memory.

Count me among the people who have little to no memory of a pre-Will & Grace America. I remember Bush administration bullshit in the 2000s but I also remember it was an era of rising LGBTQ+ media representation and of my out middle and high school classmates being largely accepted by their peers.

A lot of it really depends on where you were! I grew up in a liberal area near San Francisco and even in the 90s we had a reasonable number of "out" queer people of various descriptions. But I knew even at the time that we were more progressive than most places.

How do you think they'd respond if they learned that Ellen risked and lost a highly rated sitcom by using it as a platform to advance LGBTQ representation in mainstream media? Is that worth more or less than being a bully in the office?

Straight cis guy here, for what it's worth: I hadn't ever considered there are gay people today who haven't ever had the thoughts Pete said he had while younger. Though I feel they should know how common that was in the past it's kinda reassuring they themselves haven't experienced it.

I still remember having to be the one to explain to a young and *amazingly* flamboyant (Seriously, Elton John would tell them to take it down a notch) what 'Friend of Dorothy' meant, and why there had to be code phrases back then. They'd never lived in a time when it wasn't okay to be out.

my kids told me about some "is that your boyfriend" joking in their school cafeteria and it was understood by everyone there as no big deal. My wife and i tried explaining to them that "in our day" that would have no question caused fights that left someone bloody.

Pete Buttigieg: I struggled with accepting my sexuality but I’m glad I eventually figured it out because I have a wonderful family now This freak: talking about his coming out journey is proof that Pete Buttigieg is Gollum

a few months ago I explained to my 41 year old lib wife that some states had anti-sodomy laws on the books until Lawrence vs Texas. both anti-sodomy laws and Lawrence vs Texas were news to her.

No one under 40 or so was sexually active during a time before effective antiretrovirals existed. Add in the modern existence of PreP and it’s no surprise people don’t have conception of the 80s and 90s.

That's why the discussion is of the fact that youngsters don't understand why Buttigieg's talking about his younger days doesn't necessarily reflect his priorities now. There are more important things to wish this particular politician would better watch his words about.

A few years ago I had a 19-20 yo gay coworker who had been raised in an lgbt-friendly church all his life and had never known that mainstream evangelical Christianity was homophobic. God, did I envy him.