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Oh I’m so glad someone else does that too! 😃 I always save his redemption for Christmas Eve & it reminds me to be grateful for everyone in my life who loves me 😊 (And that is as close to sentimental as I’ll ever be 😁) Do you have an outright favourite version of the story?

I'll gladly skip this pile of shit.

This is gonna be Andy Serkis' Animal Farm levels of shit, won't it?

Jeezus, we are really living in a hellscape when pop culture is trying to convince us that Ebenezer fucking Scrooge is really an okay guy...

This is exactly what I expect to see from a culture that puts billionaires first and idolizes "business" as the apex organization. What a colossal bummer this is.

*Well, my favorite non-muppets version.

Whatever motivated a middling director like Ti West to remake a classic written by CHARLES DICKENS, one of the greats of English literature? Someone is a little high on his own supply.

In their defense I must note this story has already been repeated far too often, so a new take is probably needed. The Alistair Simms version will always be my favorite.

I will never watch him on screen again- past or future. What a sham that all was. Glad a film already catching shade put him in it. Bad press getting double time.

So the other side of this coin is being a cruel greedy sod who spreads hate and misery is a reasonable life choice. Never mind Depp (guess he needs the money) just get Trump to play the old bastard.

In fact, people zero in on Ebenezer's greed, his most obnoxious trait. But his real sin was lack of joy. The misery of his own life was what made him cause misery to others. All his money mattered not at all. His house was filled with nothing but haunting memories and bitter regrets.

People with lots of money are making a movie telling us that sacrificing your family for money and then sacrificing the well-being of poor people for more money can actually be good. Amazing. I mean, they've been saying it for decades, but now they're dropping all subtlety about it.

Are we seriously turning a story with an extremely easily read moral into a retrospective on Scrooge maybe being right?? Stop "yes, but"ing bad characters, please. They're written that way on PURPOSE. "Maybe the millionaire who wants the poor to freeze & the homeless to suffer is onto something. 🤔"

Isn't this sorta the plot of Blackadder's christmas carol?

If that was what they were going for Depp was a stupid person choice. It is a stupid person choice to cast Depp, full stop but...

Ghost of shareholder value

Next up from BillionaireMediaCom: "A Christmas Carol: Scrooge Was Right"

💩💩💩💩

I consider any "both siding" of this story to be pro capitalist wealth inequality propaganda.

Fs And of course the real “charming, butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth” Johnny Depp turning an ar$ehole into a sympathetic character. Perfect casting and changing reality. Talk about alternative “facts” ( I know it’s fictional)

hollywood is creatively bankrupt

Next up from Paramount: "It's a Complicated Life," in which Mr. Henry F. Potter explains that a banker can never quite have enough, especially with communists like George Bailey around.

You know this is bad when this version looks better in comparation( It have some strong moments tbh like when scrooge see eye to eye for a whole minute the face of Cratchit after he lose his son...that's a good scene)

Is The Daily Wire producing this

(3/3) For the working classes and the poor, especially, times were extremely tough. The country was also undergoing mass industrialization, with families flocking to overcrowded cities and the demand for work being such that even children were sent out to seek employment."

No women abusers and no grey areas wtaf

He had to go to bed to get his wakeup call?

I dunno what it says about me but I feel like this is more likely to be propaganda for the oligarchy than it is to be a poor artistic choice by the director brb my grass is calling

But think of the marketing / merchandise possibilities 😀

What's the arc even supposed to be? He gradually becomes a worse guy?

It's takes a lot chutzpah to try to outdo Dickens.

I didn't see the muppet version. My favourite is the one with Patrick Stewart as Scrooge

They are like, this || close to re-interpreting "The Good Samaritan" story to be all like, "That bitch deserved nothing. Bootstraps, mother fucker." And they call us degenerates?

I also don't understand why they think making another adaptation is a good idea, we got like 10 adaptations already of this story lmao

And it's not like Scrooge gets no narrative sympathy in the original. His unhappy childhood is portrayed pretty sympathetically, and he is ultimately redeemable and goes on to live a happy life after he reforms. You don't need to "both sides" an "I was a miserable bastard but I got better" story.

Hard pass. Depp has become more creepy with every passing year.

Are they gonna fuckin both sides Tiny tim

Victorian children after seeing this movie:

In the end Scrooge doesn’t even believe Scrooge was right

To paraphrase Seinfeld: "Perhaps there's more to Scrooge than meets the eye." "No, there's less."

I can hear the pitch now: "Really, isn't Henry Jekyll just rebelling against the stifling nature of Victorian hypocrisy? I see Edward Hyde as his nom de joie."

”Was Robin Hood right in taking from the rich?

My favorite version, the Alastair Sim one, explicitly makes the point that Scrooge takes the wrong lessons from his life: seeing the world as a cruel place for the poor, he becomes cruel and rich himself rather than trying to change the situation and help others, still a relevant message for today.

It's ok, depp will wear the chains he forges in life

Scrooge's backstory is meant to recontextualise him as a tragic figure, not a wise one. His is a story of Christian grace - by a miracle, the tragedy of a hard and bitter life making a hard, bitter, sad and lonely man is averted and his kindness brings life and joy to his community.

right like the OG tale shows that in fact there was a time where scrooge wasnt a complete piece of shit and how his choices ruined that for him

I think the MLP episode did a really good job of it too. The future part of that wasn’t simply, “You will die lonely and unloved”, but also, “Everyone else will fall into ruin and die because your framework is fundamentally wrong.” Goes pretty hard for a kids show.

Agree on every count. The muppet version was truly the one with the most depth balanced with the whimsy and delight of the holiday.

Facts

And of course both Dickens and the Muppets cover the back story that shows us how he got to be so wrong.

Love the muppet film, and also really like the 1971 Richard Williams animated version - it won an Oscar for best animated short film in 1972 www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzy...

I agree!

Also, they didn’t have serial abuser Johnny Depp.

That's my go-to favorite, with the George C. Scott version as a second. I guess there's so many good versions, they decided there needed to be a version that's stupid and misses the entire point of the story. 🤷

One of my faves was always the older version of A Mickey's Christmas Carol, because it was usually played alongside Mickey and the Giant Beanstalk.

Scrooged also does a dang good job contemporizing it, just to round out the trilogy that, by no coincidence, all emerged at the end of or in the close wake of Reaganism.

The Jim Carrey CGI version is mostly good too (except for the scenes that are clearly there just to show off the CGI).

Have you seen Spirited? It's fun.

The Alastair Sim version is the best.

Gordon Gekko wasn't real either, but here we are.

Exactly.

Wait... the "perhaps the poor people should just die and decrease the population" guy? That guy "had a point"?

I remember thinking after seeing "Pearl" that maybe Ti West can build himself up to be a consistently good craftsman. Boy was I wrong! Instead he's hedging his bets on an enshittified version of a classic starring a washed-up abuser.

And, sometimes, villains just need to be villains. They don't need tragic backstories. Some folks are just inherently shitfucks.

I'm given to understand the whole thing was meant to be antisemitic in the first place, so maybe we just stop with rehashing the same bad story a thousand times altogether

Ed Meese back in the day was a huge defeder of sSvrooge.

Yeah,love the Republican Apologia for Scrooge.

I believe you may be guilty of conflating the writer and the director of this film

This "remake" is just like the recent Robin Hood, expensive propogandato make rich overlords look innocent and the real heroes look like the devil incarnate

Offs, talk about him/the director not understanding the story!!!!’

Mmm, nah.

Depp will want to wear eyeliner again, won't he?