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It’s not that people don’t know how to buy groceries. It’s that they don’t know how to cook. Nobody teaches you this if you grow up with parents who can’t cook.

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Bingo!! This is my biggest regret in life. My mom is a great homecock, and I never had any interest in learning when I was younger and still living with them. Looking back, I would have done things differently. They should have a full year of culinary classes in high-school.

It's also difficult when the parents work all day. Another thing that isn't taught is food management. Lots of food gets wasted because we don't give it the proper storage, or we don't use it because we don't have all of the ingredients.

cooking makes one less productive while working at home? Do these people know how to plan meals for a week.... a DAY? Know what a crock-pot is? Ever eat leftovers? Pack a lunch for their kid -- same transferable skills. sigh...

I'm a reasonably competent cook. But I live alone, and it's SO hard buying food for just 1 person. So much is packaged for families of 4+, & you waste a lot or get sick of eating the same thing over and over. I end up buying packaged meals, even though they're "expensive," b/c there's less waste.

Nonsense - there’s a wealth of information at your disposal on the device you’re using if you have the least bit of interest and intellectual curiosity to learn the basics of most life skills.

makes me wonder, if "productivity" is the excuse, how productive is your working time if you can't spare 20-60min of your day to prepare a proper meal. which can turn into future meals during the week if enough is made.

My dad burned water and didn’t know how to work the microwave. My mom hated having people in the kitchen while she cooked. I think the fact that I’m a guy meant, in their minds, someone would always cook for me. My sister, though, didn’t learn how to cook until she got married.

It FEELS true that less people know how to cook than in times past, but compiled data focuses more on the what, not the why. It’s conclusive that Americans for at least a decade (excluding the pandemic) have at less at home but theories vary. Michael Pollan’s is that lots of supply is the culprit

A bit of both. We also have an epidemic of people who think organic and high end grocery stores are the best because it’s “quality”. I have had people scuff at the idea of shopping at Aldi for common groceries. The idea of having to stop by two stores is too much for people.

But I do wonder if they go to grocery stores? I get not liking cooking -- but people talk like it's either Uber Eats or hauling out a cookbook. Grocery stores will sell you plenty of things you can keep in the fridge/freezer and heat up in a quarter the time a delivery order takes.

A pound of the best lean ground beef could cost as much as $8 and still be less expensive than 2 qtr. lb. greasy burgers from a fast-food joint. And you'd obviously have enough for 4 qtr. lb. burgers. A dozen eggs could cost $6 and still easily provide enough for 6 breakfasts costing a buck each.

you can learn cooking from books my mom taught me to bake but she wasn't much of a cook. plus, I'm vegan and she definitely is not. I learned from books and practice you can learn it from a book from your local library. give it a try

With the internet, there really isn't an excuse for not being able to cook at least a little bit. There is an endless supply of ideas and recipes. I do think it can be more difficult to meal plan and shop in an efficient way that doesn't end up with a bunch of waste.

I just hate cooking. That's different. I was a line-cook as a young man and learned to despise all aspects of food preparation. Also, when I do groceries, I never use them all. I always waste like half. The more ingredients required, the more food wasted. So I eat lunch out, then eat leftovers in.

Nah. I'm just gonna live my life, instead. I'm not trying to convince anyone that my POV is right. Just pointing out my reality. I'm not gonna change. Especially not just because some rando on the internet thinks I should.

Yah... sure, it's my own fault there's that much waste. I should eat the same thing for every meal until I've used up all the ingredients for whatever. But I don't. That's just reality. I don't do that. So it's slightly cheaper to buy a big lunch and eat the leftovers for dinner. Less waste.

It’s reality, nothing wrong with that. It drives me crazy all the self righteous ppl coming down so hard on “young ppl today” for their habits, it doesn’t impact them & it’s none of their business. It’d be way more beneficial to offer actual usable advice rather than judgement.

Its a totally valid argument. The other day I went to the store and bought stuff to make a burrito and it cost me twelve dollars! That is terrible cost to value. And then I had all of these ingredients to deal with. To get rid of them I would had to make nine more burritos. Who is going to do that?

Want to know why restaurant food is often "tastier"? Ask any chef: lots of salt and fat. One (ugh, for other reasons) Chik Fil Ay chicken sandwich contains 2/3 of the maximum sodium you should eat in a day, and more fat. Trader Joe's should reduce the salt in its prepared entrees too.

I think it's a lack of confidence and a lot of cooking videos can feel overwhelming when they give you shit for not chopping your garlic fresh.

Yes but it is easier if it was something you grew up around and were encouraged to do and enjoy as a child. Stoves are frightening devices.

Taught my son how to cook and shop. He often goes with me to the store. He’ll look at what’s on my list and go get some of it to cut the shopping time down. But there’s nothing wrong with getting something through the drive-thru when you’ve put in a full day and just want to sit down.

I’m thinking cool mama Jamie never actually made a pizza if she thinks it’s cheaper to buy an uber pizza. I can make a pizza and a whole casserole of penne with Italian sausage for what delivery pizza cost. The day my mom walked out on my dad I couldn’t cook squat, but I learned fast.

You can learn to cook yourself and not blame anyone else like a professional victim would for not knowing how. This is a personal responsibility.

Define “how to cook.” If someone has enough brain cells to drive a car, read a subway map, or operate a smartphone, they can boil water for pasta, bake some chicken, grill a burger, or steam some broccoli. Prepare a decent beef wellington? Maybe not. But basic cooking skills ain’t rocket science.

FWIW, brown a 1/2 lb. of lean ground turkey with salt, pepper, and sage into a cast iron skillet on high heat. Plate it and swirl marinara in the pan and pour over the top. Buy ingredients from a club warehouse. Feel like you ate a heavy Italian dinner for $2, 600 cal, and 10 min.

Not only is it not in every high school in America, many newer built school don't have the facilities to teach cooking. There were exactly 15 slots for cooking and home economics available for the entire county when I was in high school, and that closed down after I graduated.

They don’t offer cooking in public high schools in my area or in the area where I grew up. My kids took middle school courses in rooms that had old stoves because there was no $$ to remove them.

Same here. My mom worked 40+ hours a week, and we ate a ton of TV dinners and other frozen fare. I took an interest in cooking at around 20 years old, and I’ve now got 45 years in as an amateur chef. 😎

Sounds great. I made Nashville Hot chicken sammidges topped with sriracha mayo and jalapeños and Pringles as a side tonight. Yesterday, I smoked a half butt and made Asian slaw to go with it. I’ll turn the leftovers of that into pulled pork nachos tomorrow.

I totally agree. I have met so many kids who have no idea how to cook a simple meal. How high do you turn on the stove to brown ground meat? How high for chicken? When do you season/ how much? How long do you cook things? All mysteries that we did not solve for the kids that aren't their fault.

One of the most economical grocery purchases is a whole roast chicken. Stores sell them at a cut rate as a draw, $9 and it lasts for a few meals. Make a salad, roast some root veg or rice in a auto rice cooker. Easy and quick! No skill required.

Or a whole raw chicken for $1.50 a pound. I paid .99 a pound recently. Put in oven. Wait. Take it out. Optional: throw some spice mixture on it like the appropriately named Poultry Seasoning. Fancy: put a little water in the pan, put sliced lengthwise carrots to cover the bottom, put chicken on top.

I wish my closest supermarket would price whole raw chicken this way. For some reason their precooked rotisserie chickens are cheaper than raw, so I always wind up buying chicken parts instead :(

Aaron, I think you're absolutely right. I learned 2 make pasta frm scratch, pizza, lasagna, arancini, tiramisu..whole bunch o stuff by watching my mom as she prepared them. Sure, u can learn SOME techniques by watching cooking shows, but it won't match the practicality of learning frm some1 next 2 u

Especially cookbooks aimed at beginning cooks. I've since lost it, but my first cookbook was a Betty Crocker that would explain things as simple as how to use measuring cups. It assumed no knowledge on your part. But you have to know such books exist.

But you had the interest and willingness to learn, either because you just vwanted to be a more functional adult or you didn't have any alternatives. We had drive thrus, but fewer choices & we couldn't order food on an app and have it show up at our door. We had to figure out something. They don't.

I was a young adult before the internet who wasn't taught by my mother. I tried cookbooks but it's not the same as seeing how someone does something. But now, with the internet, there's no excuse. They can get on YT and learn how to cook AND how to shop.

No one taught me to cook. I learned from cookbooks I found in used book stores. Some of the old school ones like from the ‘50s even explain how to boil water, which pans to use for what, how to set a table, etc. The basics. But cooking is a science. Much is learned thru trial & error.

Agree Aaron, I’ve seen people in their 50’s that can’t make a thing unless dumped from a can or box. Very expensive way to eat per serving. We do bulk buying, cutting portions, cooking batches to can or freeze several meals for less $$

I didn't learn any of that from my mom and being genx, before the internet, it was hard as a young adult to try to learn that stuff. But now, with the internet? No excuse. You can learn anything on your own. And I have.

It requires an initial investment to buy ingredients. Take out *seems* cheaper because you have something to eat now. Like making bread. If you have limited funds, buying a bag of flour AND salt, oil, yeast, etc. The first loaf is expensive. It's subsequent loaves where the unit cost drops.

This is crazy! There are so many good cooking videos on Youtube. Anytime you are paying a middle man -- whether that is a delivery driver, restaurant cook -- you will pay more. Those folks have to make it worth their while. You will ALWAYS come out ahead financially if you cook at home.

Agreed that we all need to learn to cook. I also think that if you’re single & want to eat a burrito, it’s ONLY cheaper than buying 1 if you intend to eat a burrito each day until the ingredients are gone. But who wants burritos for 10 days in a row? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Works to freeze some foods, but this isn’t a solution for everything. And then when you want to make another burrito, you have to dethaw all of those ingredients??? So time consuming when Taco Bell makes it in 46 seconds.

AND it’s that people DO NOT HAVE THE TIME. As a comfortable middle class person, when I started to cook my meals 4 health it was nearly impossible - I simply didn’t have the hours. AND the time notes on recipes are 4 professionals. I ended up taking a knife skills class that helped a tiny bit. TIME.

There’s middle ground between cooking for yourself and eating takeout all the time. A crockpot is your friend for cooking ahead. If you get takeout, picking it up on the way home saves delivery fees.

You can’t pick up takeout on your way home when you’re working 80 hour weeks? Do you routinely work 80 hour weeks? That’s insane. Nobody can be truly productive working that much. Employers that expect people to be effective working that much are stupid.

The people who shame the young because they didn't teach them to cook are right there with the people who brag that they used to have to stomp a button to turn their high beams on and off

In order to teach my three kids to cook when they were teenagers I told them they each had to cook one meal a week from scratch out of a cookbook. It turned quickly to a competition and Dad and I ate like kings lol. A win-win for all of us as they all cook really well.

I did that with my kids, we would each have a day to plan & prepare the evening meal, the other days would be leftovers or fend for yourself days (I worked 2 jobs & was in school) both my kids are good/creative cooks.

I was (and still am) a picky eater, so growing up (like early teens) i did the shopping and cooking with my mom so that I could control the weekly menu. We never ate anything I didn't like.

It’s almost like an entire system is geared towards making people incompetent in regard to life skills and utterly reckless with their spending. General lack of knowledge is incredibly profitable for corporations. Now add a curated sense of entitlement and boom, rake in the cash!

My mom was a creative cook, as in whatever was in the cupboard and fridge, she could make a meal for 10 out of it. She shopped for ingredients, not the specific dinner and I am still in awe of her for that. I need to know what I am going to cook, make a list of those items then go shopping.

There are lots of excellent and entry-level cookbooks such as "How to Cook Everything" by Mark Bittman. Ina Garten is foolproof. Making your own food (from scratch) is cheaper and much healthier than restaurants, take-out or processed foods. That's my TED Talk.

Feel sorry for them who think going out is more “economical” than staying home and making food. There are many ways to make food in fraction of cost and time. And a time to pause from hustling to prepare the food is good for our mental health!!

Fry up frozen vegetables. Boil noodles. Drain noodles, dump them in with the fried up frozen veggies. Add gluten free tamari sauce, until everything is slightly brown ( about 1/3 cup). While frying the noodles, vegetable mix, break some eggs into a bowl or cup, mix with a fork. Stir the stir fry,1/2

I think everyone is making this too complex. The bottom line is that we live in a wonderful easy world (at least those of us in the USA) of cheap energy, high living standards good economy. That is why we can debate about the luxury of eating out. Great Depression II and the kids will learn to cook.

Jiminy Christmas on a bicycle, how is it that in a world with multiple food-based tv networks and thousands of cooking YouTube and social media accounts that people younger than me (Xennial) don’t know how to cook?

There is a Delta between real cooking and ordering delivery. Buy a premade pizza, even the fanciest premade deli pie will be less than delivery. Buy rotisserie chicken, canned and frozen foods, or deli food...all cheaper than delivery and no cooking.

I feel quite sad for today's younger generation re groceries and food. Learning to cook even basic meals a few times a week should be attainable for anyone able bodied. People who say they don't have "the time" certainly seem to find it for gaming, podcasting, streaming or shitposting 🙃

It’s actually much better than it was a few generations ago when restaurant chains, fast food, tv dinners, and everything being premade and shelf stable under the sun was what dominated people’s diets

It's neither that they don't know how to cook nor that they don't know how to purchase groceries: it's really that they're just stupid people...it's really just that simple. The explanations seen here are just ridiculous. Stupid.

You are 100% correct. I understand people can watch videos and read recipes online but unless you understand basics, cooking isn’t easy. I was lucky that I was taught to cook early on. I was not taught basic home repair. Videos are available but most assume a basic skill set I don’t have. Same deal.

Are you referring to “cooking from a stockpile of long-shelf-life stable ingredients” (i.e., flour, salt, water, etc.) as opposed to “cooking from a la carte, single meal ingredients” when you say “cook” here? If so, you may have a point.

idk, we are the same generation that grew up with full access to the interweb. Until the recent shittification of google & algorithms messing with the efficiency of finding anything, we had access to the secret sauce to cook everything imaginable

It doesn't have to be a 'someone'. It can be a robot. I would like a prep-and-cook pair of robots. I would keep them next to my wash-and-dry-clothing robots when I'm not using them (I already own those two, being an entitled little shit. I also have many smaller appliances. Pampered as a princess!)

No, it's a reality for many. Their parents either didn't take the time to cook or didn't take the time to teach them. This generation has been shuttled from school to practice to game to lesson etc and more often than not, food was consumed from bags or cartons in the car on the way.

My parents knew how to cook. But, they were always working when I was hungry. So, after intently watching my brothers cooking I started my cooking at age 7 doing fried eggs, fried balogna, and chicken noodle soup mix. You gotta do what you gotta do. 😉

Basic cooking is not that hard. The bigger issue is a refusal to eat leftovers or to eat simpler. It may not be as good and you might eat it 3x in a week, but that is still a choice and eating out is still a luxury item. It almost always comes back to being picky eaters.

Absolutely! If u can cook, u eat for less money. My kids (now early 20s) both spent 6 weeks in a free summer program, where they ran the cafe at the trade school. They learned how to cook anything from scratch & work each station. They are inventive, practical & skilled cooks.

And shopping for groceries in an efficient way is a learned skill as well. Too many people just grab what looks good without looking over all the options.

A related problem is that many people live in food deserts and don't have access to ingredients like fresh vegetables. And/or, they don't have time to cook because they're too busy working multiple jobs and/or caring for children, elders, etc.

The time crunch is real; the food desert thing affects only 7% of the population (of all ages). I see it blamed for obesity all the time too, which is also BS - if 2/3 of the population are overweight & only 7% live in a food desert, clearly that's not the primary cause. Canned veg is a thing, also.

This! Everyone is so quick to judge without even considering circumstances. Just because something is basic & simple for you, doesn’t mean it’s basic and simple, or even possible of someone else. Ppl spread so much hate over something that doesn’t even impact them.

My mother was a single parent and terrible cook. I learned to cook in college because there was no other way to stretch $40-$50 for the month. Note college for me was 25 years ago, but that much was still tough.

Nothing easier to cook than a piece of salmon. Buy salmon on sale. Cut into individual portions. Cook one for dinner, put others into freezer. When you want salmon again, take one out of the freezer the night before. Repeat with chicken breasts. Serve with fresh or frozen veg, fruit or bag salad.

Aldi has frozen shrink wrapped salmon servings for around $5 a pound. It's wild caught but not the red kind. And you don't have to melt frozen fish to cook it. You can even throw the slice, onions, tomatoes, potato slices and dill in one covered dish and microwave it. 5 min prep, 5 min cooking.

To you and I,maybe. You still have to have taken the time to buy those ingredients, have them in some kind of pantry and fridge freezer... Have the wear with all to be able to put those together as a meal. Also you need to give your fingers a rest from the laptop.

I think one thing that doesn't get taken in consideration in this debate is cooking when you're single. Preparing a meal for a whole family is worth all the time and effort. But for one person, spending an hour in the kitchen when its just for yourself seems like a waste of time.

Easy to mass produce and freeze stuff. Ex: buy boneless skinless chicken breasts ($2.50 a pound fresh or frozen). Spice. Bake. Put in baggies. Freeze. Turkey or pork bacon (unprocessed!): fold up slices on wax paper. Put in quart baggie and freeze. Breakfast sausages: just freeze 'em.

Gee, I hate to cook (baking is ok); but we had Home Ec classes in 6-8th grades. For 2 weeks they had us in Shop classes. I'd have liked it if it had been 1/2 and 1/2. But Home Ec was a worthwhile class.

There are so many aspects of this that are true. Bigoted people raise bigoted children. Stupid people raise stupid children. Rude people raise uncivilized children. The list goes on and on.

There's recipes out there that link straight to a shopping cart at a grocery store website. If it werent for that I'd be living on frozen pizzas, cans of chili and the occasional box of pop tarts.

100% My mom taught me to cook. I started teaching my daughter to cook when she was tall enough to reach the stove. She is appalled at how few of her friends can cook. My nieces and nephew also know how to cook.

Coconut based red beans and rice, the official food of Belize, is dirt cheap to buy-- beans cheap, rice cheap, coconut only item might cost a bit more. Can skip and use olive oil if necessary.

I think the two are related. If you do not know how to cook, then you do not know how to buy groceries. It means you buy a bunch of (expensive) prepacked foods. It means you don't know what some produce is or what to do with it, so you don't buy it. It means you're likely buying everything premade.

Once you learn a few flavor profiles, and like, 2-3 sauces, you can make a WIDE VARIETY of stuff. One pasta, different meats/tofu, several sauces. Evolve and bring it to rice dishes, etc. But cooking is "effort", and I get there's all kinds of exceptions, but staples are still staples.

This, they're all much more single, much longer so, a partner who knows how to cook is less a thing. Heck I used to survive on baked potato, or frozen pizza most of college until I went to Scotland for a term and pre-prepared food was expensive, so I taught myself. Eating nutritiously is hard.

Oh, please! Between Google, YT, Pinterest, IG & other internet sources, one can easily & quickly learn to cook/prepare food IF one chooses to. Jacques Pepin even has simple, short how-to cooking videos on FB. Modern appliances make it easier than ever & they have how-to videos online too.