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probably should also throw in That One Drug That Makes Alcohol Less Exciting

To be honest I don't know how much it matters. They will just lie about data anyway if it doesn't suit them, like when they used this chart with a completely made up date for when Trump left office, and which claimed to describe illegal immigration but was about people stopped at the border.

nah, he's caused so much unhealth that the hockey stick will show up after he's gone (and also because GLP-1 agonists will keep getting better and cheaper)

I can damn-near guarantee that the demolition being done to US public health will outweigh any relative decrease in obesity-related conditions for the minority of the population that can afford these medications

Only some of the time! ...ok, most of the time. But not all the time!

Costs need to go down and general avaliability needs to go way up first.

I'm not worried about it. The massive spike in preventable diseases from lax vaccination standards will overshadow any benefits from GLP-1s.

also the disease outbreaks and stuff too, and the fact that he actively and openly despises medicine There were a lot of ways the fashies could have locked this in, but they just refuse to

hate-like

they're also actually restricted from their desired policies all the time because there minor players in the coalition. otherwise it'd be swamped by flu measles deaths

Counterpoint, this won't actually be effectively statistically backed up until RFK Jr is long dead, if it ever will, so it will barely matter for relevant near term discourse/political valence.

I'm waiting for Brainworm Kennedy to claim responsibility for the discoveries about mRNA vaccines to treat cancer. The same mRNA research for the same cancers Kennedy defunded.

I want to say that the press has been surprisingly good about separating Kennedy's woo from the benefits of semaglutide. But then I remember the people who voted for Mamdani because they thought he must be a conservative since he talked about "prices" and "the cost of living."

We're in luck, fellow Kansans! Cuz we're handling the dead babies for like FIVE STATES! (NO BUT SERIOUSLY & that is a lot, but we got this, right? We will just...employ more doctors & nurses specializing in ob/gyn...stuff, I guess? That seems kinda good, actually?)

Let's just hope that the Europeans & Canadians (or Mexicans or Chinese, or anyone, really) are as skillful at detecting new diseases as we were once upon a time. In theory, it's not like America is the only capable global actor in a pandemic. We just kinda act like we are.

I dont think we disagree I just made my point poorly. It is very much a societal issue, you are 100% correct.

Thanks, I hate it.

Surely you understand I was responding to a question from a friend, not advocating that this is how most people get glp-1s

Interesting, thank you for the link! As GLP-1 treatments become more and more common, hopefully we will have it be cheaper and cheaper with better and better methods of adminstration

(Don't start at 3mg, though, start at 0.5mg and work your way up there over several weeks, you're much less likely to get bad digestive side effects that way)

Eh there are undeniably a lot of health issues with obesity (this comes from someone who is aswell so I really dont mean it as a personal attack). Altho Thorne is definitly overestimating the impact of these things and how easily accesiable they are for people.

might want to look a bit upthread

I’m glad it is effective for you. I hope you have long-term success using it and staying on it. Your individual outcome also doesn’t determine whether or not it is a fad. Time will tell.

A lot of extra people are going to be dead that didn’t have to be. And it’s all Republicans’ fault.

Oh god.

That’s ok. Will be evened out from measles, screw worms, and parasite infested lettuce. Maybe polio makes a comeback as well. It all balances out in the (sooner than you think) end.

Heart disease is the #1 cause of death. Even with the youth colorectal cancer rates increasing, they're a tiny amount comparatively.

No need to speculate about what will be when there is already an increase in oncogenesis now. www.washingtonpost.com/health/2024/...

I just personally dont really think its worth worrying abt tbh.

I've heard good things about those drugs but I don't know if they'll be able to cover up all the measles.

he really isn't, long term data on GLP1 agonists in non diabetics does not exist to make claims like this and nowhere near enough people are using them even if they were having this kind of impact. also thin people get MIs, CVAs and cancer too

No, most people who need GLP1s - and I mean actually medically need - can't afford them. They're mostly for the rich to abuse. It won't make a statically difference though since most people with a real need for them won't get them.