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It's so exhausting to to be constantly told by American leaders that the defining policy of the 80 odd years during which the US became the most wealthy and powerful country in the history of the world was a grossly unfair failure for them.

Heather Stewart@guardianheather.bsky.social

US trade secretary Howard Lutnick really not mincing his words here at Davos: "We are here to make a v clear point: globalisation has failed the West and the USA. It's a failed policy. It's what the WEF has stood for, which is, export, offshore, find the cheapest labour in the world."

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This is what happens when the rich evade accountability, elections are privatized and the bribery of public officials is decriminalized. Capitalism inexorably leads to fascism.

Dmitry Grozoubinski@explaintrade.com

It's so exhausting to to be constantly told by American leaders that the defining policy of the 80 odd years during which the US became the most wealthy and powerful country in the history of the world was a grossly unfair failure for them.

It’s the defining policy that has made them the most wealthy until NOW, when they have been beaten by China. And with that realisation, they have decided to change the rules and the game.

We are 4% global population about 25% of global GDP, and they want to tear down everything that made America a success. We got wealthy by focusing on knowledge-based jobs away from manufacturing. The rule of law made our Treasury bonds cheap. But Manchurian Trump is doing the bidding of our enemy.

Ummmm.... so how's that going to work out for the billionaires who have financed Trump's (and the Republican Party's) rise to power, if their primary path to becoming billionaires in the first place is dismantled? The leopards are dying of obesity...

Not every American became wealthy from globalization. Many were left behind, and they are fuelling the current MAGA movement.

Globalization fosters liberalism by its very nature and that might mean republicans would have to learn some pronouns which they can't seem to get there heads around. “Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself; but talent instantly recognizes genius.” - Sherlock Holmes via Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

They're just attempting to deflect Americans' attention from the absolute failure of trickle-down economic policy here. Don't blame Republicans; blame the "globalists."

What these idiots don’t say is that the system never failed corporate predators & oligarchs: *it netted them trillions.* But they in turn cheated working class & 99%, profiteering while they were left behind. The conjuring trick is to make the patsy class not see this & blame instead scapegoats.

No, but the consequences are different; social security is more generous in Sweden/Australia; the political culture is different; I'm not claiming that the US situation is specifically negative, but it is a major,

decades-long change that cannot be evaluated exclusively positively or exclusively negatively. In any case, excessive reliance on supply chains that extend to autocratic states obviously and unequivocally threatens security.

I just wonder what the end game is here? Your products are cheap, your soft power is high and militarily you get lots of pliant support all due to globalisation. What do they want to change?!

I honestly think their endgame is to pull the rug out from under average Americans and make middle class living unattainable here. If people can no longer pay for rent, health care, groceries, etc...they have no choice but to buy into whatever fiefdom bs these rich assholes want. Shock Doctrine 101.

Well said, globalization made America rich and powerful, isolation will quickly reverse that. The trick for the world, is to formulate the best plans to move on without America.

It's almost as if they are irritated with us because they squandered their opportunity. I think our govt missed an open goal when they could have blocked X due to credible threats of unregulated pornography which would have given US tech some indication of how this could play out.

Yes, the U.S. became unimaginably wealthy under globalization, with a massive income gap and a slide in real wages for anyone below the upper middle class. That led to a revolt of the masses that gave us American fascism and the very real threat of a trade (or worse) war against Europe.

I guess the fact that currently ~85% of Americans work in services which have largely been spared the wage pressure of globalization, and inequality is at all-time-highs makes me sceptical thta keeping tariffs high on China would have prevented a real-wage slide for the middle class.

They have become lazy- the BILLIONAIRES fed on tax cuts and stop innovation unless they can monetize - like billions or protect their wealth by obstructing innovation! Lying, disinformation peddling and minimizing - we see in climate change and with Covid 19 and Long Covid right now!

It also ignores the actions of private capital. Post WW II reconstruction was almost totally a US effort getting profit rates that were unprecedented. By 1973 it slowed to normal; that no longer was enough. Corporations abandoned the US and good sense to pursue them. Gov't followed their lead.

Absolutely fair. But also - The US has a huge wealth gap. Richest country? Sure. But pair that with a meager social contract, and demagogues who point the finger overseas instead of paying their fair share in taxes… Et voilà! You have our current political conundrum.

This will be heard in different ways by different audiences. The most important audience for Trumpers right now, though, is the hard core, Trump’s most ardent supporters. They want to be told they’ve been victims all along. They wouldn’t need Trump if they hadn’t been.

What they really mean is that in the last 80 years they have had to see and deal with an increasing number of people with brown skin and that is simply unacceptable to them: They will dismantle all the productivity and wealth to make sure that comes to a stop.

The wealth and power are confined to a small minority, while most European countries have longer life, health (and happiness) expectations.