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I was sick of it in 2006.

But I've come across SUCH a great take!1 www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxUE...

offering Lonnie Livegreat, the Transmasc Autistic Wizard who Deserved To Be More Than a Punchline to @chucktingle free of charge

TBF if you're the sort of person so afraid of dying you start tearing your soul into little pieces so you can hoard them next to your funko pops, you probably aren't all that good at waiting out your fears.

read a fantasy series with an actual good magic system already

Yes, please, on the U.U.!

It's been 2 decades now. It's enough. We're bored.

i'd totally forgotten about this, I'll have to dig out my tpb's

It's a mid fucking kids escapist fantasy!!! That's it! There are literally thousands of books out there like it!

And it’s only going to get worse because there are huge promotions planned with the books around the release of the TV show.

A fucking men dude. It isn't origional in any way. The whole lot's cribbed and highly reductive. Woman's a charlatan, not to mention a stone cold bitch.

Masterful

As a British child in the late 2000’s it was unbearable as hell, especially since the books sucked even back then(and at the time I would literally stay awake for 72 hours to read through an entire book in a single sitting like an insane person)

true!!!!

The test of a good fantasy world, to me, is being able to imagine the world extending past the boundaries of the story. It's not all that easy to picture the world of HP including, like, Scotland. Let alone the rest of Europe or (heavens forbid) other continents.

The "read another book" meme substantially predates her villain turn!

I know the people telling people not to watch it have their hearts in the right place, but I've heard more about the show from them than any advertising. I would barely know it existed otherwise.

Yep, it was never great or original to start with - it's a deeply averagely written set of books...

I was sick of it before she became the queen of anti-trans

Imagine if Tedwall Abbey got the 170 dollar lego sets they give that boring ass hogwart castle

I'm of an age now where I'm glad that very few of my fave franchises are The Most Popular Thing considering how much worse fandoms get the more popular the property.

Euuuuulaaaaaliiaaaaa

Point is, I'm tired of the little shit and I wish he'd been taken out by a nut allergy

Redwall should have been one hero for 7 books. Too many mc changes imo

I think in that timeline Jacques also develops a right wing neurosis so the main difference is that all the hufflepuffs say they're moles now

I AGREE SO HARD

Because Redwall wasn’t as merchandiseable

(Why couldn’t it have been The Dark is Rising, or Dianna Wynne Jones, or Diane Duane, though, and I’m on board.)

Redwall is pretty racist tho

The central location is an abbey but as far as I could tell, no actual religion happened there. Just a bunch of woodland animals wearing uniform robes and living communally.

furries too distracted being horny

Bc ppl are afraid of being furries. Even tho truthfully, a lot furridom is just enjoying animal allegories in media. Oroborous.

FUCK YES

Or Animorphs?

And in case you were curious, Face/Off is played by picking who gets to be Nic Cage and who's John Travolta, then arguing for 30 minutes about who really gets which face. That's pretty much it.

yep

the way that the books are like so truly Whatever at best and somehow because a cohort's entire personality

Yeah, why can't she write something new we can collectively not read?

Like, I'm glad you like a book. Maybe try reading another one?

It might be the Boomeriest thing my generation has going on.

Post your lists everyone!

There's a reason why, even before Rowling's transphobic crusade, the main response I had to the series was "jfc read another book"

its a story where in hindsight the only thing really unique about it is that it became extremely popular somehow. At the time I didnt care bc basic ass normies were suddenly reading books but since the films its been like eugh enough

Its wild what an utter failure Fantastic Beasts was And their best answer is "okay lets just do Harry Potter again" lmao The Wizarding World franchise has utterly failed

It's a drag watching various dipshits try to wringing every last cent from an IP, even when it was a great to begin with. In this case, whyyyyyy is it still here?

I feel like there's way more fucking merch and collabs and shit for it now than there EVER was at its peak. Makes me feel like they're trying to reverse engineer popularity/cultural relevance through STUFF.

Yep. like I was a fan of the books as a child but there were and are better books…multitudes even. Like can this generation Of kids have their own fantasy series? Do we really have to keep heating up the same mid children’s fantasy series?

READ ANOTHER BOOK

Harry Potter was normie enough to be marketable and catch the zeitgeist. Animorphs was around too and KJ Applegate is a big trans ally. Her books were too weird to get that kinda mainstream appeal though.

She got her ideas from this, there was a TV show about it back in 1997. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wor...

And I realize I got into them as a Xennial - I think I'm technically the same age or a year younger than the characters - but JKR was painfully, obviously showing her lack of skill once the books stopped being so kiddy and breezy. And it floored me that others didn't see that.

Some people really can't handle the idea that their cultural relevance peaked and isn't coming back. Like a comedian that doesn't roll with the times and gets mad because they feel entitled to laughs.

Each book got more and more repetitive

Once she got rich and famous, she couldn’t be edited

I’ve never read or viewed anything from that idiotic canon.

Harry Potter? The star athlete who grew up to become a cop? What about that story isn't endlessly fascinating to you?

I'm not even a fan of the genre but shit. Children of Time. Library at Mount Char. Both of which were ORIGINAL. They can make that whole series disappear for all I give a shit. JKR is just as shitty as HP Lovecraft or Orson Scott Card but even those nasty racist fucks were ORIGINAL. JKR ain't shit.

Ha! Yes, plenty enough reason to not watch that show. Like, why would one watch it!

I don’t know (and I won’t be watching.) but to me this sounds a lot like complaining at the recent Dune movies are a lot like the old Dune miniseries.

lmao well. I would still be annoyed.

even my ten year old has moved on from the books

It’s a genuinely vacuous piece of media. There is no subtext because the author was always dim and uncurious. It’s a structurally fairly competent work and the prose is acceptable at conveying what’s happening but you can just tell the author did not think deeper than the actual words on the page.

Dragging an IP until all that is left are the nubby fingers.

Fascists are not "insane". Insane people are victims of fascists because saneism and ableism are core tenets of fascist ideology.

It’s possible to tell good stories in the Star Wars universe (though mainly, it seems, by ignoring most of Star Wars). It does not seem possible to tell good stories in the Harry Potter universe, even if that were a desirable end.

It will be great when the thing finally premieres everyone watches it in like 2 days and then society moves on

At least that's how I remember it; I kinda stopped caring before the series ended because the writing quality noticeably degrades and I started feeling like I was reading an unedited fan-fiction.

I thought it was an unrepeatable but very interesting idea, writing a series of books for a single age cohort where each book would deal with more sophisticated themes in more sophisticated prose styles as that original group grew older, but it sounds as if that kind of broke down toward the end.

There's this bizarre middle class hang up about it, like it's the new Enid Blyton. It's incredibly frustrating to see people cling into the nostalgia and ignoring the extensive collateral damage. It's just... There are other books? It's not the be all and end all?

Boycott all Rowling products.

Even the Wednesday Dance got old.