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I want you to notice how this article, which took two journalists to write, doesn't even bother to seriously explore whether the claims being made by companies are true it's genuinely just not relevant to them

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Building data centers in space could be cost-effective by the early 2030s. www.semafor.com/article/06/1...

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like, they very briefly flirt with the idea that space data centers might have logistical issues, before dismissing those concerns based on the claims of one startup that hasn't built anything yet, I ironically named after a legendary flight failure

The interest focus of U.S. "business journalism" isn't real people, labor, technology, or whether the technology even works, it's unchecked wealth accumulation. And it's not subtle.

Space X IPO journalism, pretty much universally, is comically terrible. Worse than even usual. Monday's newsletter will focus on it. Just total alternate reality fan fiction for dull LinkedIn MBA entrepreneurial hashtag hustle types

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Remembering all the "journalism" going on at CNBC during the frothy days of the dotcom bubble and the housing bubble. Every generation has to learn anew it seems.

This technology that's still being developed and hasn't been tested yet that's specifically for unloading supplies is a sure bet to remove broken hardware from a data center and replace it.

Replacing chips and fixing broken hardware are difficult to do in space. The solution? Robots! Robots that are also difficult to maintain and fix in space! Brilliant!

they will test unloading bags of supplies next year ——> able to replace a RAM module in a server speaking as someone who has not only worked in a server lab, but also studied robotics, yes, those are TOTALLY the same difficulty level 😆

Yes, probably because making robots that do stuff remotely in space has precedent. It's not revolutionary or disruptive technology being developed. Even getting parts up there to replace old parts is likely trivial with unmanned missions. The ignorance of heat management up there is more pressing.

Barely worth responding because of how many layers of nonsense this all is. But one of the companies referenced gave a quote about how they were planning on "putting a [Nvidia] Blackwell in space" as a test run. Well I can save you a bunch of jet fuel there...

It has no natural protection against radiation. It isnt manufactured on any of the silicon processes like FD-SOI that you use when youre building a satellite or space vehicle. Even if physically shielded, it still will face constant bit flips and fry outs from cosmic rays, solar flares etc.

Data centers in space is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard out of fElon - and he's full of really incompetent ideas. They fail every single test of a data center: - Power - Cooling - Upgrades - High speed, low latency I/O You couldn't pick a worse location for a data center if you tried.

Nah I think it's totally plausible that the cost of a self sufficient orbital data centre is about 4x the cost of a big warehouse in Alabama. A fully loaded server rack only costs about 3 million dollars to launch into low earth orbit, and of course putting it in a warehouse in Alabama costs $750k

In college I lived with b school students (at Ross/Umich). As a science major, it absolutely blew my mind when they told me they are trained to take financial statements at face value. Like, what, do you also write your assignments in crayon? Anyway they all have way more money than me now.

The market is being run by carnival barkers with no sense of truth. It's being run by "Trust me" bro's. FFS, just got done watching the COO of SpaceX on CNBC say we could have 1 million people on Mars by 2035 (maybe 2040)... GTFOH.

I tried reading the SemiAnalysis piece, which *seemed* to say that all of the typical arguments for data centers in space are bullshit, BUT, if you are willing to believe in infinite demand for compute, well, then off to space we go

' They may as well claim the "cost-effectiveness" of putting the Easter Bunny in space. With enough buzzwords and acronyms, you can baffle pretty much anyone....

I want you to notice that We The People have no idea, no definition, of what AI really is. We are not privy to what is going on Behind Closed Doors. In space or on the earth. Congress & State lawmakers refuse to regulate & disclose. It is NOT just robots. Good vs Evil?

The whole thing is about costs - so a money man perspective - and not feasibility, aka an engineering perspective. Where does the power come from and where does the heat go? We don't use vacuum flasks to keep heat in for nothing..

Call me crazy, but if the idea is to leverage solar energy to power you servers, you could just do that on the ground and not bring a giant explosive rocket into the equitation at all. New rule, all data centers must build solar arrays that exceed their needs by 50%. Excess is free to local grid.

If you use solar energy then you also HEAT your system big time and it already has no sensible way to get rid of all the heat from the chips - vacuum flasks keep things hot, and space is a very large vacuum flask.

I'm pretty sure mars rovers use triply redundant radiation hardened processors with static random access memory because of wokeness and government bureaucracy. Have you ever seen a cosmic ray? I haven't

there is no case for data centers in space watch me prove it, with penameters to spare if you go up against enrico fermi you will lose just sit back and watch things unravel instead

After speaking to six different sources about this, the conclusion I came to was that you could argue they're feasible, but to do so at the scale Musk has suggested would see SpaceX monopolize one of the Earth's most important orbits to the great harm of the planet. www.engadget.com/ai/orbital-a...

engadget.comOrbital AI data centers could work, but they might ruin Earth in the process - EngadgetIf executed at the scale, Musk's orbital data center plan could have devastating effects on the environment and the sustainability of low Earth orbit.

No, and while starlink purportedly has, that too comes with a long long line of asterisks, including sagging ARPU, high sustainability costs, tons of subsidies, and looming competitors

The “profitability” of Starlink is only because they categorize all the launch costs under the space vertical. I doubt very much it’s actually profitable if you took into account the cost of getting the satellites into orbit

Tech and science reporting usually fucking sucks. A lot of writers either don’t know enough about technology to be skeptical of claims or they’re more concerned with getting the story out quickly and don’t want to waste time with something as silly as fact checking.

I guess they’re also afraid that questioning tech claims will make them look stupid? No one wants to be the person who said that the internet or the iPhones would just be short-lived fads.

genius man is so full of knowledge and capacity that you do not have to worry about whether claims made about genius man are true....genius man transcends humanity and is going to bring bounty to fools who will use it to further destroy the planet and humanity.... c u later...

"Do the laws of thermodynamics allow this cost-benefit analysis" should really be one of those fundamental questions, before even considering human laws. "Elon Musk and Marc Andreesen say if governments legalize time travel, it can save civilization." Great. Has the universe legalized it?

Most interesting part of watching the episode of 100 Question with Tom Simmons featuring Brian Cox was when he talked about all these funds allocated to making us an "inter-planetary species". That hardly anything, in comparison, goes to mitigating threats of asteroids like trajectory shifting tech.

The bullish business case is effectively a nested "if" statement: "The cost difference could fall to 30% within five years, and if demand zooms upward, chip supply increases, and public backlash against building data centers on the ground grows..."

I live very close to where Microsoft is building three datacenters in Brazil, like, they are bizarrely well located(There is a supermarket close to one of them), the idea that they are going to be able to build them in space is dumb. Even if energy and cooling were really cheaper in space.

They replied to that post with a post about the cost of “orbital compute”, a thing that does not exist. Some days it is very hard to avoid concluding that America is 10,000 scams in a trenchcoat.

America was founded by hucksters selling you lead and cocaine filled cough syrup and everything since has been an iteration of that

It was inevitable that PR would become an outsourcing model. Nearly all forms of expository media have been perverted to Marketing in order to stoke unconstrained consumption perpetually. Combined with idolizing techbros as superheroes, too many are helpless and adrift within a systematic con.

'Dylan Byers of Puck News wrote in 2025 that Semafor has "morphed into an events business oriented almost entirely around sponsorship deals." And with Sam Bankman-Fried as one of their largest original investors and the plan hatched at Davos...well

How does this work since Musk has close to 10,000 StarLink satellites up there and according to Forbes, "SpaceX Vow To Loft 1 Million AI Satellites Could Spark Doomsday ...May 31, 2026 ." So where do the data centers go? JFC

This is one that's actually addressable with the science: the SpaceX satellites orbit at around 550k, whereas the data centers are slated for around 2000k. So they wouldn't get in each other's way. The rest is all nonsense, obvs.

Thanks for that info. Now I'm getting to wonder if a meteor came in and what kind of chain reaction there would be if it hit one of Musk's things and then things exploded all over the place... It's a dream...lol!

Please tell me they spent at least 3-4 paragraphs talking about the engineering nightmare of cooling circuits in space. We must have made some super progress on converting heat pollution to infrared light that I was unaware of!

i’m no expert but seems to me they keep imagining more and more elaborate schemes to get around the serious problems with these things which can ONLY make the whole thing MORE expensive and destructive.