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I was pointing out that the logic in the original post was weak - didn't say anything about the US or its murderous imperialist history. And nowhere did I say or imply that if we followed China's lead on renewables that we had to "copy the parts we don't like." It doesn't work that way.

They build one tofu hospital and spread the frikin COVID, example of the chinese quality construction, record your own video saying that you leader is Winnie the Pooh,Xizhong,dictator,national traitor, then I believe that you are not one Chinese troll. youtu.be/05uD-gXJkI4?...

It isn’t about goodness. While we are tossing our money away with a war in Iran, & bombing fishing boats, China is investing in infrastructure in countries world wide. Hospitals, trains, roads. Huge investments in Africa. They are growing their food worldwide. A long term plan for world domination.

ignorance.

The difference is that colonial power made mistakes of course, and now those same countries that suffer, are bending over to china, that as concentration camps for the muslims and the army acts like this in the video. youtu.be/Uy2ZrFphSmc?...

That's fair. Making a lot of stuff and treating neighbors right ain't the same thing.

how is what I am going to make you less complicit in the genocide of Palestine and the global war mongering of the empire you pay taxes to

You are hilarious. Why isn’t china’s economy booming? They use slave labor and still are considerably behind the US economy. Go take your communist propaganda elsewhere. I have never voted for Trump but even his economy kicks China’s ass

At China’s current national poverty line, the number of its impoverished citizens fell by 770 million in the last 40 years. Meanwhile the US middle class has been shrinking.

Not to mention China's superior public transportation, modern infrastructure & education. Here in the US, our country is run by self serving morons, we get what we deserve. Gold leaf on statues, giant posters, broken pools, dry grass & ballrooms.

Yeah, well, that Tibet thing...

Oh they're involved, they're just smart enough to not get involved directly.

China has fought wars in Vietnam, Korea, India, Tibet, represses its population, murdered millions of its citizens, and bullies its neighbors over some bullshit ancient map they’re using to claim the territory of other countries. Pull your head out of your ass.

Also AI, without sacrificing the planet or local humans to do so, at over 1,000x cheaper, all open source.

The US is making 80% of the pedophiles and wallstreet douche bags.

They also are not headed up by a rapist or doing whatever an Apartheid state wants them to

Good to see a country just getting on with the job, rather than getting involved in USA's rubbish. Trump has enabled this.

Smart country 😶

The U.S. is held back by greedy politicians, billionaire megalomaniacs and a deep desire to turn the clock back to the land of Dixie.

Tell that to its Neighbours and Tibet. They feel at war with them all be it low level but constant

They're just on a mission really to take us all ( Westerners) down a peg after what we did to them ( mostly the English) in the past. Destroyed their Empire and made them all addicted to opium. They've been planning this all for a very long time. This is not happening by accident.

We could have been producing those, too, if we’d been smarter.

China is not great either

China's communist regime: political survival of the party's elite is the only goal. Anything not aligned will be eliminated, sometimes ruthlessly, no matter if it makes sense socially or economically. Unfortunately, with every passing day, the US is sleepwalking towards that totalitarian reality!

This is what is to be expected when our so called leaders choose to instantly gratify themselves instead of building the country so that it thrives in the future

When the governing body actually gives AF about the earth, and it's inhabitants especially those most in need!!!

they go where the money is to be made..

Whenever the US is fighting a war, China always wins.

how many of their citizens did they kill in #tianamensquare ? How many foreigners are they watching right now in China? Why wont we ever find out about the origination of #covid? Why do they have secret police stations in the U.S ???? What about #Uighurs in #China ? China is also not innocent

And all of the merch the convict sells.

Ghina!!!! (thats what I got). I can't propose a solve for their lack of free speech without democratic bedrocks. The 1st Amendment is so important. It should be a global order. I thought we were doing so well. USAID is gone.

More importantly, they are building an entire new power grid with better technology that US developers led but abandoned in the 90s as too expensive.

China knows the lesson of the past 200 years: military power depends on economic might. They've built the economic might. Meanwhile the West has abandoned theirs.

I’m saying it, the longer this regime is in power the more life will be lost! Trump isn’t the only destroyer in the world!

No, it’s because Trump is a moron that doesn’t know how anything works. And he believes his sheer force of will can make anything true. It has nothing to do with Epstein. He doesn’t care.

And his buddies as well, because they also give him $

I think this just means that they are better at Capitalism than we are. Funny how that shit works out. Not sure what the average Chinese worker's quality of life is like, so I can't comment on that. Could be that they just have smarter oligarchs.

China wins (national) friends and influences countries. The US imposes tariffs on them and bombs them. I wonder which is the better strategy.

Wrong m. China is at war with the rest of the world for over 30 years. They don’t use explosives, the use giving insane amount of money to new technologies until you lead the market.

Theyre not involved in constant wars? They sell arms to Russia and Iran Theyre just more subtle than the US,is all

...I THINK NOT...

We will be owned by China in less than 10 years because they are not ruled by the dumbest people in the world.

In less than ten years, China will conquer the world by suppling it with everything it needs and not burn a drop of fossil fuel doing it.

Yes, China is a not a good actor. They are working towards a neo-imperialistic world order and have their sights set on taking Taiwan. Yet we in the West have become addicted to just above slave labor and lax environmental policies so that we can save a few bucks on a cell phone.

But No Windmills!!!! 😂

There is something to be said with the efficiency of Chinese central planning. If you want a high speed National train system—built it! Solar dominance—do it! EVs—done! No political squabbles, no endless delays. Now, if they could just get rid of their political and personal oppression.

None of these items are for sale in the "free market" capitalist US.

Dead AAA batteries

Coincidence of what? Most manufacturing has now moved out of the west and into China so why is this remarkable?

And China’s ship building capacity is 200x the US. They delivered 972 commercial ships in 2023 compared to 7 in the US.

No, just focussing.

While the US killed our whole renewable industry. For the sake of the oil compsnies who are destroying the planet.

You and the genocidal maniacs and religious nutjobs running Israel can fuck off.

You creatures have such odd obsessions.

Because they are focussed on economic power and the control it brings them. The USA is all about bluster, violence and posturing at the expense of influence and credibility. Guess who's going to win in the end?

This should have been the US crowning glory, but Republicans blew it. We are so far behind the rest of the world

China is also a Communist country.

Looks like in the end we'll have to be more a bit continental about our economic needs or fall into subservience to China. -They're good about it now, but they probably won't be and they have essentially stolen so much intellectual property, largely from the US and it's many Universities.

I would argue that they’re not only tangentially involved in both Wars but that they’re also eyeing one of their own.

China is speeding ahead. China is focused in becoming the next world power while the US is working hard in destroying everything they created & built in the last 250 years by idiotic incompetent men who only care about money & power. Power they don’t know how to distribute or channel appropriatly

ILLUSION

The wars America fights are great for big business.. Wall street that is

Because the republicans wanted to "own the libs", China completely owns the renewable energy market. The world is buying panels and mills from China because GOP gut renewables

Both are hella corrupt. However, China seems to just murder its own people. The US slaughters indiscriminately, not just killing its own people.

Remind me, how many nations China has invaded and bombed this century?

Both can be true. China ain't the good guy just cause America ain't either.

Thank you. Look what they've done to Tibet.

I am so sick of people acting like the CCP are heroes. Fuck all the way off with that nonsense.

Theyre not being murdered at the rate of a thousand a day as they were under Biden.

I didn’t imply I accept genocide. I said was there is no comparison between China and America. While idealistically one politically motivated death is as bad as thousands, it is tiresome to me that The West asserts China’s HR record is bad vs America is good using the Uyghurs and Tibet as evidence.

They are busy truly making their country great. Are we great yet?… because all I feel is embarrassed.

At least the US didn't intentionally kill their solar- wind- and batterymanufacturing like Germany 15 years ago.

China also doesn’t have museum full of treasures from looting all over, nor left a trail of death and exploitation from colonization around the globe. And yet, western media continues to portray the country as “troubling” and needing to be managed. 🤔

They embraced green energy while Republicans called it a scam

Without the PRC, North Korea would collapse. Almost every country that has a land border with a China has had one kind of issue or another (even Russia).

They are helping Russia and North Korea and Iran. But hey can walk and chew gum

China doesn't have religious freaks to deal with, like maga USA, Israel, Saudi Arabia, & Russia. The 3 evil religions are christians, jews, and muslims murdering and oppressing people in the name of their gods for centuries. Remember Jimmy Carter put solar on the roof of the White House in the 70s.

if it wasn't for Chinese support for Russia the war would be over and we wouldn't be selling weapons for billions to the Ukrainians

Peaceful? Every day their threats and bully behavior towards its neighbor countries are getting more bold. Japan is changing laws and rearming in turbo mode because of that. India and China has small border war going on etc.

They are not idiots.

They steal everyone else's tech to get ahead🤔.......

Seems more capitalism.. than the blah blah from GOP about what they perceive a communism.. ouch.

And America invented the solar cell, the neodymium magnet and the lithium ion battery?

Yet.

They're too busy taking care of their own to be fighting wars. Our government doesn't even want scientists. We depend on China for so much. Be best not to piss them off.

Please tell that to Myanmar Hong Kong, Mongolia, Tibet, Taiwan, The Philippines, Vietnam, India, And other countries the Chinese military directly or indirectly negatively affects.

Thanks to Trump, China is now the world’s sole superpower.

If Clinton had won in 2016 this could have been us.

um... I think you havent looked into the way china is trying to recolonize and take over other countries rn. thats fucking wild

If we didn't have a dumbfuck in the Oval Office, we could be leading the world in renewable energy infrastructure, but we do have a dumbfuck in the Oval, so...

It's all a "Communist" plot to break the back of the West's fossil fuel conglomerate! (sarcasm)

EU must step up our own production of solar panels, wind turbines and batteries.

Spot-on! 1 month ago, the Chinese Navy started test-launching ballistic missiles in the Tasman Sea between Australia and New Zealand. WE have Chinese radicals living in both countries; they are not pleasant when one comes into contact with them. They do not hide their plans to eventually rule here.

omg, I just replied to another comment in this thread; you are 110% correct

Religious morons hold America back. That and power hungry oligarchs.

Europeproduces almost no solar panels, and a token or wind turbines and batteries. Its car industry is crumbling and moving backward on EVs. Europe is not involved in any wars. Coincidence?

Nope. Resources applied benefit people instead of want to the king.

Facts!

China leads the world economy statistically.

China is focused. While America gloated over Tesla, they created a whole industry that left American car makers in the dust and years behind. Their alternative sustainable power generation devices also lead the world. Trump fights a useless vanity war that only benefits him. Big difference …

The advantage of a one party authoritarian state is that strategic decisions that take 20 years to come to fruition can be made. The disadvantage is that if those decisions are wrong the government cannot be removed. China made wise decisions. The Trump dictatorship makes bad ones. So does Putin.

Because China’s profits are not made from waging wars. They build instead of bomb. But don’t tell that to the West. They have a cabinet full of brainwashing soundbites and distractions like Uyghur genocide which apparently only they only see but not any in Gaza.

Wasn’t there a parable about ants vs grasshopper? Seems what’s happening.