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as much as this does make me hopeful im VERY cautious

I don't see one name, 'Ken Martin', on this list. Did I miss his name by mistake❓

Good. 👍🏽

That is great ICE had been causing way too much damage killing, Americans on the street or in cars and saying it self-defense. so the question do we need ICE or do we need to replace it with something better that can't kill citizens.

The lateness of this is horrifying. Literally *horrifying*. But is it an indicator that the bootlicking old guard within the party are finally losing their grip on power? That I'd applaud.

ICE and CBP have been turned into terrorist organizations. In addition to being abolished, the people responsible for this transition need to be prosecuted.

They should fire all the ICE officers, put enforcement into the INS, create standards like no masks and no arrests of non specifically targeted people and require character references for all applicants. Also no concentration camps with subhuman conditions.

Finally, a system update that actually addresses the legacy bugs instead of just patching the UI. Long overdue for a hard reset.

Absolutely, talking about abolishing the Gestapo is absolutist and will simply get hung around our necks come election time. We need to *reform* the Gestapo, people!

Reform is fine for CBP which actually has some legitimate functions. CBP can be drastically curtailed to only actually patrol the border, rather than roam all over the country. ICE does not. ICE has so fully tarnished its reputation and is unsalvageable. It needs to be destroyed.

I'll be more convinced if they do this after regaining power in Congress.

Great! But will we be able to vote? That’s not a sure thing. He’s going to call a national emergency and cause complete chaos at the polls.

Nice strawman ya got there. Be a shame if something was to happen to it. 'though I am kind of curious how immigration is very complex. But you do you. c-punt incoming

Yeah, we haven't gotten any of those. We've just had american citizens killed by a gestapo

ICE has nothing to do with the border, dumbass. You can replace it with a much smaller, more focused agency whose sole mission is to go after actual criminal illegals, and actually have them be properly vetted professional.

Well look at that! We’re pushing the DNC into showing some spine. ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE YO!!! ✊🏼✊🏿✊🏾✊🏿✊🏼✊🏿✊🏾

Well, let’s move on it, then. Let’s be fucking AGGRESSIVE about it. Let’s pull on our electric gloves about it.

The Dems accelerated ICE. This is a resolution, not an action. I'll believe it when I see it.

Just donated. I rarely donate to the DNC but this deserves it.

the 75 dems who signed the maga 'we love ice' bullshit last year? can we talk about their TERRIBLE POLITICAL INSTINCTS

What a pathetic joke.

Abolish is a lie Replace or Reform is too nuanced for the fried brains we see on display here. Half know you are all truly that simple so they tell you Abolish. Narrator: there will always be some org in charge of immigration, whatever the new name is.

So they did approve a resolution calling for the abolition of ICE

This is a celebration! I am bringing the cake!

A strongly worded letter from Chuck might not be enough this time.

Sounds overly progressive to me and non binding. Just reform it. Idiots.

Hakeem Jeffries wasn’t listening. He said he wants to reform ICE not abolish it.

I'll believe it when those cowards get it passed. But they won't. They'll water it down before they even present it to congress and then Republicans will gut the hell out of it and our streets will still be full out brownshirts beating up immigrants. Don't ask me to cheer

They're not going to do the hard work of making it happen, they're going to discover after it gets them some votes that it's too hard and we actually should do a lot more racism.

If u can't beat the Democratic Socialists of America, join them

You might want to check the years there & get back to me about who was in office then, cuz Trump's ICE isn't the same organization. There's not even a pretense of minimum standards for recruitment anymore & they dropped 40% of the training, particularly the stuff about Con. law & civil rights.

What's wrong with that? I know that I'M a stable, honest law abiding person, but I don't know jack about everyone else around me & I DAMN SURE don't trust that all of them are the same.

Not hard....impossible... unless seems win 13 new Senate seats. Not happening.

FINALLY

Beltway Groupthink has an incredible pull

Yes like those who fled Nazi govts. Many arrived thru Ellis Island. Many arrived thru the North via Canada & Mexico to the south. With nothing but the hope of a free society to exist.

I'm glad they did it but they probably waited till closer to election season just because it would be fresh in people's minds. Not excusing it because they needed to stop this months ago, just pointing out that american's are totally overloaded right now.

No, fuck you

Okay, don't take the W.

Kind of sounds like there's no pleasing you. Can't imagine why anyone should bother to try.

So you'd be happier if they didn't come out for this? STFU if you just want to stay mad

The US didn't enter WWII until forced by Japan. However, the economic and military power of the US helped win the war. If the DNC is finally onboard, i will ding them for being late to the party, but we can use the political muscle.

Count the number of people who died because they delayed. The number families destroyed. The number of constitutional violations.

fuck off dude take the W

I want them to be followers. They serve us. I just want them to actually listen.

You haven't done anything?

Weird how they finally did this juuuuust before voting in November, politicians are lame as fuck

It's this. It's belated but welcome. This will be a useful call to action for the midterms. Candidates saying they support this should get a surge in support.

Maybe when there is a W we can take it, for now it's just another L in waiting

"Wise man say, 'forgiveness is divine, but never give full credit for late progress.'" - the philosopher Michelangelo, paraphrased

pretty tough sell to convince folks to take further political risks when the reaction to their current progress is to immediately move the goalposts to something not in their power rn at all…

What do the words 'out of power' mean to you???

John Fenterman just had another stroke.

I foresee a strongly worded letter.

Every single ICE perp needs to be gathering evidence on his comrades. You're gonna want to have something to offer to prosecutors.

Finally. Guess they worked out that on this issue at least the progressives are not the enemy

Were the "electrocution gloves" a bridge too far?

inb4 they take it back

hopefully, or you'd be wrong

Fairly certain they were agreeing with you. They're referring to either the Space Jam Goon Squad or some other movie reference?

"Squad" is the subject. It sounds awkward; but for a single squad, the verb "is" is correct.

Damn you’re a shitty person

The word is "terrorists".

They passed two resolutions, one for abolition but the other to reform it 🤷🏼‍♀️ Keep pressuring them to abolish.

Bout time.

Ah, thank you for flagging. I found the "concrete reforms" phrase. (See that reso below.) I read this resolution as more of a floor than the ceiling the "abolish" language clearly is.

It's all very unclear. Multiple outlets are referring to "a separate proposal calling for agency reforms" alongside this one to abolish ICE. But apparently no journalists actually wrote down or recorded what was said, because NOWHERE can I find anything less vague than this.

What took so long?

Now let's see if they stick with it.

You might have mentioned the competing resolution about reforming the agency that the DNC also passed. Reform and abolition are conflicting stands.

They know they have fire power coming in November!

The abolishing of ICE is just not in the wording of this resolution. "Concrete reforms" is. The bar is so low.

Just a few years ago NPR Ira Glass was calling #AbolishIce the build the wall of the left. Ira is a coward, a fascist enabler, look at my BlueSky video! #NPRbias bsky.app/profile/mich...

About fffn time

Breaking, this is meaningless and only the shallow care one way or another. A symbol for the simple. Want real change? Support a coalition that can bring a significant governing Dem supermajority across the board (you have never lived through one, never)

This is as ignorant as defund the police Think about your message abolition or major overhaul?

This is way overdue, but it gives me faith that a few spines have been found at last.

this makes it more likely imo

if we vote out the ones who won't they will

They didn’t last time. Expect to hear them complain about secure borders or something.