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On Celebrity Cruises, there is an onboard evening dress code. Wearing a baseball cap, or shorts, or flip-flops, would bar you from entering one of their restaurants for dinner, And...surprise, surprise, they do enforce it. It made quite a difference. @radiofreetom.bsky.social

I agree wearing a baseball cap in a restaurant is just being Dopey, but they might be socially Bashful or too Sleepy to take it off. If you ask them to remove it and they get Grumpy, they should see a mental health Doc. A medical one if they're Sneezy. Anyway, I'm Happy you went out to eat. 😁

Or in farm country.

People do have skin conditions that they may want to hide, scarring, eczema, psoriasis, alopecia and so forth. While the baseball cap may not be the most sophisticated choice, it may reduce unwanted starring and actually reduce the “discomfort” of the other restaurant patrons.

I like people who have good manners. They are NOT classist and stodgy - good manners are a sign of respect for others.

Oh, you know it's okay when rich white people do it.

Even in the 90s in FL (where most places had switched to “resort casual”) we still had to call restaurants to check if there was a dress code because it was common enough to be a gamble.

they didn't give you an ugly, ill fitting jacket and tie? that was normal back then.

I only wear baseball caps in nice restaurants to distract from the fact that I’m not wearing shoes.

But still dopes. (Note: Steven Pinker (I know, right?) addresses this in 'Better Angels...' suggesting that dressing *down* is the new class signifier as only waiters are obliged to wear ties.)

What they're reallly saying is "I'm bald"

So is a fellow leaving the house open at the neck. But I say that as someone who is 125 years old.

You were doing so well until the “but.”

A collared shirt would be nice too.

I have yet to find someone who can explain to me the rationale for why it’s considered rude to wear a hat indoors.

And you wonder why the orange turd got elected!??

Who cares? Nobody except these people.

Amen.

"Dope" is way too polite.

Ok then, explain to me what issue is being caused by a person wearing a hat indoors?

Respect for what, though? What’s the thing about hats? The reason?

Then it doesn’t have to be a nice restaurant.

It’s ok until May.

Depending on how you define nice, this is not a thing in farm country.

yes! I observed this the other day.

True. Absolutely.

Classist? No, dressing and acting well are reasonably open to everyone. People just don't do it, not because they can't.

I get that grammar and spelling rules are arbitrary and at least classist if not racist, but I still want copy editors

Any kind of hat.

What kind of restaurants are you frequenting? Can't be too classy

And probably bald.

You argue he is sending a terrible message. What is that message you are getting?

You're doing it based on a completely arbitrary standard. It is not rational.

It’s also stupid, because a critic should be relatively anonymous or at least unannounced. Who cares about the review of someone proudly announcing their intent to basically blackmail the restaurant into a positive review? Fuck “influencers”.

Fact

nah, you’re absolutely right. wearing a baseball cap in a nice restaurant? that's peak pickle behavior—no respect for the fridge or the fancy settings. like, do better.

@dieworkwear.bsky.social would have a cogent, culturally and historically-based argument to dispute your claim that it is classist and stodgy to question the appropriateness of wearing a baseball cap to a restaurant.

I find it infuriating. My son always wears a hat due to a bald spot, he’s still young enough to be a little self conscious, so I got him a couple of nice fedoras to replace the baseball cap, though I think even those shouldn’t be worn while fine dining, at least it’s a little better.

Kendall Roy energy

Do you a position on cowboy hats? I think they look asinine on men wearing dress suits. Cowboy hats should be worn outdoors while doing serious farm/ranch labor.

Military: your cap comes off when indoors, unless you are technically or actually armed. Merchant Marine: You don't wear a hat in the messroom, period. (Nor undershirts or flip-flops.)

Still classist and useless

I guess the custom of taking off your hat indoors is gone?

Some places you also need to wear a collared shirt. A Polo passes.

And men, wear socks with dress shoes. Seeing your leg hair doesn't appeal to anyone.

Didn’t he say his kid punched him “inadvertently” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Good for your dad. My mom has gotten so backward that she wants me to wear only dresses. Which I don't comply with, but at this point, I do not even want to have any contact with her.

Yes, because religion is great to teach people to abide by irrational rules.

Why? What will rationally happen if you wear it?

At the bar? OK. At the table? Nope.

You're going to turn into @radiofreetom.bsky.social aren't you?

Agreed but if you’re in sandwich or family restaurant where jeans are ok, than a hat is ok too.

Also no swim shorts even if the restaurant is two blocks from the beach.

I once walked into a kind of shoddy bar in Budapest for lunch in December wearing a beanie and the manager told me to take it off

Double that if it's on backwards and you're older than 10.

Would it kill you to mind your own business?

My Dad once explained to me that in the military, only those authorized to carry weapons, such as MPs, wear "covers" (hats) inside. To vets, wearing a hat indoors creates the appearance that are inappropriately trying to act "combat ready," or are just lazy.

After 35 years I still have to remind my husband… he’s getting better at self-correcting. 😜 🧢

Man-boys.

Sorry, but we weren't raised in barns. Take off your hat while inside. It's simple etiquette, which some "feral pigs" have apparently forgotten or never learned. Classless?

Any hat, BTW. Wearing a hat inside while sitting and eating? Straightforward stuff

You're making a statement. Probably similar to driving around in a "cybertruck."

Mr. Bump, any chance you’d allow your words as a sign posted at the entrance of all restaurants, nice or not?

Are you in the Midwest?

If you wear your hat inside you're a dope and if you wear your hat backwards after you turn 20 you are beyond help