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We recently shared Bluesky’s stance on user data and AI training, which has not changed. Bluesky will not train generative AI on user data. bsky.app/profile/bsky...
A number of artists and creators have made their home on Bluesky, and we hear their concerns with other platforms training on their data. We do not use any of your content to train generative AI, and have no intention of doing so.
For example, this might look like a setting that allows Bluesky users to specify whether they consent to outside developers using their content in AI training datasets Bluesky won’t be able to enforce this consent outside of our systems. It will be up to outside developers to respect these settings
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I expect you to stop this, and ban all those hugging face people forever. AND have opt out by default. So really thinking of stop sharing here. And I'm sure I'm not the only 1. Want @bsky.app to continue replacing tw- then DO SOMETHING!! The - it's up to them to respect a no - FUCKING POINTLESS.
And it would seem you could ban users/IPs/networks groups doing this and take legal action. This excellent @nytimes.com article from April indicates that YouTube knew of this option when they found OpenAI was scraping but chose not to because they were training too. www.nytimes.com/2024/04/06/t...
Does this have something to do with this? bsky.app/profile/dani...
I've removed the Bluesky data from the repo. While I wanted to support tool development for the platform, I recognize this approach violated principles of transparency and consent in data collection. I apologize for this mistake.
Seconding this suggestion -- @bsky.app you should very much share notes with @kint.bsky.social on this! (Also Jason, any chance you've got some kind of writeup of emerging best practices or something along those lines?)
@bsky.app it’s good to see a platform having a conversation with the users in order to get a consensus
You could also actively make the images non usable by AI by using filters like Nightshade/Glaze. nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/whatis.html
tl;dr everything you post on here becomes public domain as far as bluesky is concerned bsky.app/profile/pdj....
Fascinating conversations going on regarding data access, consent, and ability to use "bluesky user" data for research. The fascinating thing is some aspects of the technology are not clear to people and there is an expectation of... control? Waiting for "if you want free speech go to twitter"
this! bsky.social is one server in what will presumably be a network of servers in the future, i dont think blocking people from accessing it would go against the open nature of the platform
I said it before and I'll say it again: bsky.app/profile/anam...
An important distinction needs to be made here. It's great that @bsky.app says they won't use our data to train GenAI (not to say they won't ever, but that's for another day). But this doesn't mean that other companies won't. Don't be fooled: every post is for sure being scrapped by somebody else.
Perhaps make it clear that everything you publish on Bluesky is the equivalent of publishing it on the public web. If you want to mitigate specific content being trained without consent, host it behind an auth/captcha gate and link to it. Perhaps Bluesky could even add a checkbox for posts/profiles.
it's not about allowing or not-allowing, they literally are not able outside their systems. it's not how the system we all signed up for operates. ATProto is intrinsically a house with open windows. The best they can do is lock the door. If that's not good enough, folks will just have to move houses
Adding my two from this thread: bsky.app/profile/sara...
You wanna lead the way on how this should be handled? Don’t fall into the pattern the powerful have already set in motion. Don’t make ppl have to do something to “opt-out”. That’s not ethical consent. No action. No training. No action. No mining. Put the burden back on the powerful.
@bsky.app or maybe @pfrazee.com/someone on the dev team, please allow us to block starter lists. (Fuckface) @hf.co is scraping our data (literally over a million posts) and they conveniently created a starter pack with their employees. I would like to block every fucking one of them easily.