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Are there protections against corporations publicly scrubbing Bluesky's platform? It's great if you don't sell or give that data, but what if OpenAI just decides to take content anyways?

Here’s a tech tip to help identify AI images… bsky.app/profile/tech...

Llega una hora que Bluesky se clava, por qué?

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Option to completely disable AI? I am so sick of it being pushed on me in every single app! I don't need help to think of DMs to people! I'm a good writer and my brain still works. I feel like I'm being offered a wheelchair every time I get off the couch. I want AI to fuck off! Thank you! ❤️

PLEASE count me out. I want nothing to do with A.I.

Aren't there better things to spend engineer and legal hours on, than legitimizing a manufactured moral panic? Like actually encrypting DMs or fixing the regular netsplits between the PDSs?

Make it opt in, or don't do AI at all.

leave it off by default

You are embarrassingly slow on this. A 6 months project to add a toggle is not good enough. Stand up. Fight for your users rights.

Bring the bookmark feature.

Don’t do it. That’s what people want. Don’t bring AI to here, we know it’s everywhere now, but infusou gonna use it don’t allow it to see what we post, just use it on the bureaucracies idk

So does that mean we can take all the full wine glass pictures we want?

I *think* this is the end of the line..

Well that sounds very reasonable, responsible and transparent… Are we all absolutely sure Bluesky is real and we aren’t all suffering from some sort of shared delusion?

I want a way to say "use my stuff!" I don't post for money and I'm happy to feed into future minds.

You need to find a way to stop this, or loose bluesky as the home for artist it has been until now. If this is as bad as Meta and twitter, and if you by the format of bluesky - makes this possible then fuck bluesky....

Thx for all these updates.

Hyvä BiDen.

For so long, all us twitter heads said "We gotta find something else so we can get away from this billionaire bigot". Then along you all came and gave it to us. THANK YOU!!!!!!! 💙

I think this is a great effort u guys r doing a great job and i appreciate the effort

I appreciate you’re doing something

Make a stand and don't allow your platform and user's content to be cannibalized. If you don't, you're no better than other platforms.

way above my paygrade. I'll just say thanks for having a social spot in a world choking on itself.

Tbh you don’t need Ai here on Bluey. Users will post content and use the app like the old (and good) Twitter. We don’t need Ai writing our posts etc. Keep it all simple, and keep Ai away from the platform. Let the users create the content we will post, and Bluey will thrive.

Can’t we just post one of those “I don’t consent” tirades and then it’s no problem?

While you're talking with lawyers, can you also discuss changing section (2 C) and (2 D i) of the terms of service to remove or change the phrase "future offerings"? There's concern that that's too broad, and it would let you be malicious with our data if control of the team changed.

If you can't offer assurances that our creative output won't be fed to the AI slop machine without our consent, creators will (and should) stop posting on this platform

So if a billionaire come to pay millions to "outside developers " in order to create AI networks in bluesky, which will be trained by our accounts posts, is OK for you..... this is insane, men. Anyone of the billionaires will can do that to manipulate the safety of bluesky.

Best of luck, wish you the best! Just always remember that this platform should be about great experiences of people connecting with eachother and sharing love

Hi there! As an artist, I'd like to give my input on this. And while I know that you're likely being flooded by responses, I hope that someone sees this and at least gets them thinking. First: I hope that you're not just working with lawyers and engineers. Involve artists in the conversation too.

As long as you don’t let this turn into x and not be able to even look at anything because Elon musks stuff or fake a I comes first lol love this so far and quit x and Facebook

Glad to hear this! As I understand it (happy to be corrected, not an AT expert), you should have both technical and legal remedies at your disposal. You can collaborate across hosts to track IPs that are accessing inhumanly large amounts of data at inhuman speeds and block or rate limit them, no?

Openness and decentralization should remain the priority, even if it means people's data being accessible to AI scrapers

It's so nice to be on a platform that talks in the form of 'we' instead of the ego driven direction of a billionaire and his opinions.

Nefarious actors will take the content no matter what. This is why an open approach often is better. That said a lot of artist left X due to misuse.

I definitely want AI to train on whatever I post on bsky, especially road safety facts. Why would anyone NOT want to make road safety facts as widely distributed as possible?

good news . we are wating

Let us private our profiles

I have been trying to warm up to Blue Sky, but I find the character limitations and other limitations to be irritating at best. I just tried to post a couple of videos, and was informed that videos could not be longer than 60 seconds. Too many restrictions. #Bluesky

Will there be a spoil words option I'm the future

i feel like the app should include a 'Glaze' option on image upload

Please let me know how I might join such a conversation. Been making some #powershell #websocket experiments with the site, and want to ensure that any user can easily ban ai training / scraping.

Plz, let this end in a good way...

Does this have something to do with this? bsky.app/profile/dani...

I'm glad you're on it. I've had 2 incidents that appear to be AI generated😕🐐

Please give a definitive answer on this, this is concerning...

I appreciate this effort. Yet I think it's futile.

xix of artificial intelligence …

Thank you!!!🦋

Thank you very much for keeping the community informed! :D And for being on the lookout for solutions. :)

Why we would anyone want to help the AI apocalypse?

Do what you have to grow, we live in 2024 and users need to understand we live in a different landscape than before. Google, Meta, and X all utilize these tools for their benefit. We can’t lag behind now.

#Siguemeytesigo

I hope we could have notification bells soon so it will be even better for people who aren't a lot online to get updates from account they want (like your of course ^^)

Thanks fr the care and the notifications

Could you automatically add glaze or similar to images?

Please give us option to block it

If you guys are defending your users (our) privacy then you are doing the right thing.

Would you add “find friends through contacts?”

Just give a user setting to opt-in to inclusion in the AT firehose api. No opt in and your skeet doesn't go to anyone AI or other.

Would prefer it if no AI was used whatsoever to determine what is seen here by users. But if an option out is added, I would not agree to AI info being used to determine what I see here etc

Eager to hear what your lawyers and engineers come up with. I'm a singer-songwriter. I've stopped using most social media platforms because of their gross lack of ethics when it comes to AI. I was truly hoping that this site would be different.

The getting lawyers and all makes me feel a tiny bit better but im still kinda eh… when it’s up to rich fucks to honor people’s consent if they opt out of something. The rich will do what’s best for their own interest.. and once somethings used to train an ai model.. it’s in the ai’s system :/

At least this shows that you guys do care. That's good to hear. Also don't be a fucking dumbass and use the thread function y'all implemented. It's useful.

BLUE SKY FAMILY 👪 UPGRADE PROCESS HOW GOING ON

Allowing users to annotate licensing in our content is a worthy concept to explore.

Got a way for all the things I put the frowny face on to stop showing up? I'd really like that one to be a thing too.

Hope 1 feature is a translation feature

Will there ever be actual video uploads to compete with YouTube and their heavily censored comment section?

When all else fails. Please assume the answer is no by default. 99.99% of artists/creators don't want their work stolen. 👎

give me a shout please, I’d like to understand this better as we can share notes on how trusted publishers of news and entertainment are also approaching these signals. Thanks.

You lost me if you do that.

Thank you Blue sky keep banning the racist fascist Trump voters here thank you thank you

Please just stop it with the AI

You could also actively make the images non usable by AI by using filters like Nightshade/Glaze. nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/whatis.html

@bluesky Please hold the line against “outside developers” with a platform-wide prohibition against use, abuse, or sale of our content / data to anybody. Why are you even thinking about setting up an opt in/out consent structure? Just say no to “AI” bros. Thank you!

Would be cool if you charged AI companies a fee and rewarded us for letting them use our content for AI training datasets

tl;dr everything you post on here becomes public domain as far as bluesky is concerned bsky.app/profile/pdj....

What a joke this app is! Truly pathetic! Almost as pathetic as the meltdowns all the leftys are still having!

If it's made a setting, please make it off by default. AI training should be something people opt into, not have to opt out of.

It should default to non consent, and then allow users to opt in if they decide to. Not the other way around.

If you do implement this, then it needs to be OFF by default.

But what about explicitly blocking known ai scraper bots? If they're disguising their user agent and also ignoring the legal notice, that seems pretty damning.

Thank you. Glad to be here

this! bsky.social is one server in what will presumably be a network of servers in the future, i dont think blocking people from accessing it would go against the open nature of the platform

I hope this is the end of the line 😅

Do your best, that is enough 😊

That's nice

How would it do that

Good thought. Simply tracking what they do, steal, take would be helpful as soon as the Rich start suing for this kind of theft: a good basis for class action lawsuits.

Scrapers and AI companies have no ethics They won’t respect anything but profits Can you modify the AI protocol to ban access from them or add on some proprietary code to prevent it?

Yes, please.

I said it before and I'll say it again: bsky.app/profile/anam...

This has got to be an opt-in addition not an opt-out

Just let us upload videos larger than 1 minute 😉

No one should use Content from Bluesky unless the creator is paid. Period. Not for AI training. No stealing images for T-shirts. Nothing.

a better sounding version of what they're saying is "we wont use your data for AI but we may give you a way to allow others to do it if you choose to" They'd absolutely need to make it opt-out by default otherwise they'd piss off a LOT of people, but i'd be surprised if they didnt

Perhaps make it clear that everything you publish on Bluesky is the equivalent of publishing it on the public web. If you want to mitigate specific content being trained without consent, host it behind an auth/captcha gate and link to it. Perhaps Bluesky could even add a checkbox for posts/profiles.

This feels like such a betrayal, tbh Lure artists to your platform with a promise that you won't use their art to train AI, which you KNEW most artists would interpret as "your art is safe here", then turn around and serve up their contributions as a tempting treat for third-party AI developers

There's no way to do that. Someone can always create a new account or access it from a different location.

If so, then users must have the option to control what they consent to, to what extent and it needs to be transparent. Not saying no, just saying be open because if not it will fail, this needs to be done with GREAT care

This seems to be where more can be done. A simple pre-filter on the firehose API removing posts from individuals who opt-out seems like a pretty simple solution.

So looks like I'll be deleting another app. Y'all rich YT folks need to stop asap with this dumb shyt

it's not about allowing or not-allowing, they literally are not able outside their systems. it's not how the system we all signed up for operates. ATProto is intrinsically a house with open windows. The best they can do is lock the door. If that's not good enough, folks will just have to move houses

Adding my two from this thread: bsky.app/profile/sara...

Can people post .PNGs?

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Its for legal precedent more than anything. It would be very hard to sue either way but declaring the collection of your content as misuse at least gives you a slight chance

Where is the setting, so I can toggle it to "I don't consent"?

Is it possible to add a default to our profile that opts out of training, for the inevitable class action against bad actors?

Whatever... yawn

Please set the default to not giving consent

Respect these settings? You have a bright future in comedy.

Right now, the only thing we have is these "gentlemens agreements" like robots.txt. Like robots.txt, there's no enforcement mechanism, and in order for it to work, the scrapers would have to respect it. They largely haven't. They don't have control over what outside companies do.