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If you live in a major American city, scenes like this are probably happening near you. Intensive "boot camps," teaching men how to talk to and pick up women, are taking place across the country as people grapple to recover a lost art: face-to-face conversation. https://cnn.it/3QETCli

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The trick, to the oblivious people out there, is to socialize with people without the interest of sex at-hand. Just be a person, hanging out with another person who you want to be friends with, and maybe don't worry about the sex until it's a relevant factor.

Will every woman vibe with you? No. Will you slowly gain confidence and train your brain to not treat every situation like this as a life-or-death adrenaline pumping situation? Yep. If you keep it up, will there eventually be a woman who does vibe with you? Maybe, and that should be good enough.

I never really dated. I started dating my wife at 15 and we’re still together in our early 40’s. I’m pretty sure though the way you talk to women is the same way you talk to anyone. You walk up, say hello and go from there.

My husband gets asked for relationship tips, and I go, "do they understand that none of this was intentional? We didn't have some secret plan or map to ending up together. We can't give advice on that part, we can tell you what we do to stay together, but the beginning was just rolling the dice."

If you want women to spend time with you, actually be the sort of person women want to spend time with. If you want women to have sex with you, actually be the sort of person women want to have sex with. If you have to lie, trick and manipulate women into doing either, you’ll die alone.

Does this not already make the distinction between people who naturally are the sort of person who gets into relationships and flourishes socially and the people who don't? If you are simply offputting are you meant to suppress it to trick women into believing you are normal?

Speaking as an introvert who finds it difficult to engage with people in person I find “Don’t be a self-absorbed asshole” is a good start. If you pretend not to be one at the start of the relationship, it’s going to become evident that you ARE one pretty quickly. Better to work on actually changing.

'I need to be the lion' is an insane thing to say. 'Look, I'm not gonna hunt, I'm not gonna work, I'm not gonna look after any kids - but I am willing to kill to MAKE kids, so, you know, get ready for a perfect life'

It’s honestly weird to me that this is being reported as if new. These “teach men to pick up women” scams have been a running trope of tv and movies for 50 years. There are always men willing to pay someone for the cheat codes to women.

The predatory language and nonconsensual recording of women is gross. If you want relationships with people, you need to look at yourself. Do that work. Treat people with respect. See women as people not objects to conquer.

Back when the whole "pick-up artist" thing was getting big in the 2000s I could not comprehend how they managed to have so much trouble with this. I was socially awkward and scrawny and still found myself needing to come up with new ways to decline.

What the fuck is this rebranded pick up artist bullshit.... I'll give you a hint on how to find someone, don't be a dick and talk to them like an actual living human being. I get that this boot camp hates this one simple trick, but that's all it takes

Do you know what works even better? Getting a genuine hobby, and maybe a little bit of time talking to a therapist. These will help you be able to talk to real people far better than a sleazy pick up artist training.

ah yes, it's great to see frustrated men being told they just need to be more aggressive about talking at women and be sure to stomp all over boundaries to show how "alpha male" you are or you could just treat us like human beings? with varied interests and preferences?

Be kind. Ask her about herself and her interests. Hold the door for her. Pay for everything. Don’t expect anything from her at the end of the night. If it doesn’t work, it doesn’t mean you have nothing to offer women and it also doesn’t mean she’s a harlot.

CNN pushing hard the American predator culture. If it only afflicted you would be bad but here in Canada a kid deep in US incel culture just shot two people dead, because he found himself wanting, trying to be that lion. Yet here you are, matter-of-factly spreading US moral rot like it's cool.

The incels and the PUAs, although both toxic, are two completely different groups with opposite views: the incels believe male heterosexual attractiveness is based on immutable physical characteristics (“virgin vs chad”) while PUAs believe it’s a product of teachable techniques that can be taught.

It’s not a question of ideology. The one group bonds around their perceived inability to form sexual or romantic relationships. The other group pretends to have cracked the code of seduction and to be able to hook up with anyone. Sure they’re both weird and toxic. But in their own way.

As I said they’re both toxic. However, the “handling” part only applies to the PUAs. The incels have given up on women altogether and don’t believe in the “handling”, the manipulation techniques of the PUAs. Both groups are a product of the unhappy marriage of late capitalism and patriarchy.

K I'm a gay man and I've been told by countless women I could hit it because I am polite, I ask them about themselves and their interests, and I respond to what they say in conversations. Str8 guys if you can't grasp that, you should not be reproducing #Darwin

Face to face conservation is a "lost art" chiefly because of right wing pick up artist incel grift just like this. This isn't conversation; this is just fascist manosphere indoctrination. Remember men: Feminism liberates YOU even more than it liberates women.

The standard to follow was set by the president a long time ago. He has been really thriving calling women, and men too, inventious names like crooked Hillary and terrible person at MTG. So teaching men decent behaviour is directly going against an immensely successfull standard, already set.

🤣🤣🤣 How to talk to women as a man - lesson 1: Whatever MAGA and MAGA owned networks tell you to do, do the opposite. They literally have the worst game. This is a BS grift. Treat women with the same respect & dignity as anyone else. Stop supporting MAGA is also high on many (smart) women’s lists.

"I need to be the lion." Oh, that sounds cute. "No! Lion! Grr!" Teehee! Cool. Have you picked out what conference you want to go to? "Conference?" There are lots of furry cons! I have only been to one, in a borrowed platypus that no one else wanted. But it was fun. "No! I am a lion! Grr!"

Fuck that PUA bullshit! I keep being told by women I love (like my recently-dumped-me-at-age-50 exGF, and also my best friend) that I WILL find a better match for life mate b/c I’m attractive, kind, have a great personality… While these fucking grifters make me look like shit by association to men.

The advice I give young men: make tons of female friends. Don't try to date them, just see movies or play videogames or carpool to events or .... And you'll get a girlfriend. One of your girl friends will set you up with the right woman. It always works.

Get off the computer (your only source of social interactions) Get a job (🥹) Get healthy (no money) Interact with people (where???) Find a coed hobby (how???) Go to therapy (still no money + therapy can't fix a societal issue) treat everyone with respect (fine this one's actually really easy)

I failed at getting a job so bad, I'm now aspiring to learn about repairing bikes in an out-of-state community college. Sob- At least if it works out, it's an employable skill and the city the college is local to has a thriving cycling culture/industry. 🫠

none of these guys really want to "talk to women". what they want is some kind of secret code to get what they want out of women. if your goal is simply to talk to women, you can just do that. no special training needed. you can even get dates and sex from doing this, as a side effect.

I mean, I wouldn't ask a random woman on the internet to invest labor in you for that. But the women you know personally will probably answer those questions. And you can DM me any time. I can't speak for women but can tell you how to listen to their answers and learn.

And, he wants a "Barbie"! Which, btw, is an impossible body standard. And the coach wants him to get in front of her and make her feel scared and trapped??? And illegally videoing her? He's not lonely enough!

🤣🤣🤣So cringe! 55 year old grandpa running after an attractive young woman, aggressively harrassing her & cant understand why he failed? He needs to get over himself! No woman under 45 is interested in him. She doesnt want to date her dad or even granddad especially one that accosts her in the street

It works like this- You ask a question and listen to the answer without interrupting. The other person asks a question and listens without interrupting. These questions should be somewhat related or flow into new questions with each person taking turns asking while the other listens.

Social media has made people mistake access for intimacy. Ends up creating a false sense of closeness, and knowing someone online isn't the same as truly knowing them.

Where's the barf emoji when you need it? My dudes this is literally a scam to make people find you intolerable, which fast-tracks you even deeper into the isolated, angry, red-pill cult of emotionally constipated weirdos.

The problem here is that the easiest way to pick up women is to just genuinely like hearing what other people have to say, and the type of dude who'd take a class like this is not going to ever consider anyone besides themselves.

“Let’s solve the male loneliness epidemic by leaning more into toxic masculinity and the patriarchy! Surely this won’t backfire and cause women to hate men more than they rightfully should!”

Try not being the sort of gigantic arsehole who goes to pick-up boot camps and it's much more likely women will be interested in you. Your mother might even start to love you again.