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cause for removal per ipse

Why do people act like Scandinavia is progressive when this shit happens there like its nothing

Instead of giving your citizenship to everyone just make it much harder to obtain.

Apartheid

UK already did this.

the same way rancid shit like this happened in america, we told you that when you mock us you are only mocking your own future 🤷‍♀️

Due to the fuckheads in the government plus the worst opposition ever.

It seems 1930s German history has been erased from memory

bro just call them Swegros and be done with it

Well. We will have to see about B.

And there’s even more r/e 2nd class citizens: no social benefits during the first 5 years in Sweden if you earn less than ca. 40000kr. 🤬

God damn Sweden! It’s too reminiscent of its history. God damn.

wow, my opinion of Sweden just plummeted

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Sweden does not have a constitution but four laws that are constitutional

😔💔

Way more lenient than the "UK", where if you *theoretically* could have another citizenship, the government can take away your "UK" citizenship with the stroke of a pen. (www.runnymedetrust.org/publications...)

Unfortunately it seems like all the "center" "left" parties almost globally have been captured by those of the more national socialist workers' party tendencies.

Sort of already is like that, just haven’t been any bills proposed to allow for it. Won’t need a constitutional change imo (regarding double citizenship).

In my view, an EU country should never be able to make another EU citizen 2nd tier, should Sweden introduce tiers. But I strongly advise againat adding tiers.

Vem kallar du brun!?

So... They're taking the first step of an apartheid state

The political scalpel hasn’t been forged yet which targets Muslims only. But it will come and will be seen as normal just like this destruction of the sense of citizenship.

It's unfortunate that they chose to be racist just because they wanted a high trust society, safe to walk streets at night, no ethnic tension, and no ethnic outbidding. Countries with liberal universalism might be extremely polarized and parlayzed by gridlock but at least we can't be called racist.

People were mistaken to believe post-War Europe absorbed the lessons of fascism and WWII. The first moment of substantial non-European immigration to a country turns into this, or Greek border guards shooting across border at refugees, or frontex letting boats sink in the Med.

Es un argumento nazi. ¿Eres nazi?

i keep telling people that the only reason scandinavian countries have such generous benefits for their citizens is because they were ~90% majority white when those systems were established now that they’re only ~70% majority white they’re coming after full citizenship for brown people

Fascism keeps bubbling up

Oof. Sorry to hear that.

Fascist scum

😢

This is a very dangerous move. Countries should not be able to revoke citizenship, once a citizenship has be legally obtained without fraud. If fraudulently obtained, OK, revocation possible. But otherwise all other laws should be sufficient. Psycho POTUS revokes citizenship. Despicable.

They already deport families, children (alone), old sick people who don't have anyone to care for them, people who have no connection to the country they are sent to, and none of them have done any harm. People who have done everything right gets deported. It's inhumane and racist. Fascism.

Case: www.svt.se/nyheter/loka...

Freedom is merely privilege extended Unless enjoyed by one and all

For sure not just in Sweden, but here the hypocrisy in combination with how fast the shiny surface just crumbles is astounding.

"And how more and more parties fall over their feet trying to please the fascists makes me sick." Yep. It really is a nauseating feeling.

How is this supposed to be enacted? Retroactively or since the date the law passes? I have seen at least one report that the Trump Administration is thinking on the same lines.

@erikangner.com yay, imagine investing 7-15 years of your very limited life just to get fancy residence permit called citizenship for some reason

This bodes ill

😡😡😡😡😡

They heard the term "2nd class citizen" and took it as a suggestion

@erikangner.com Unbelievable…

Fucking evil.

addition I would make is to exclude people from that who have a second citizenship they cannot lose and can make a case that they tried in good faith to do so (e.g. North Korea or others). Obviously they should be excluded. But if someone with german & russian citizenship decides to join e.g. 2/

One of the most disheartening aspects of Trump’s attempts to weaken the 14th amendment is that the US’s (actually written in the constitution) citizenship guarantees were a moral example for other countries to aspire to. You literally cannot be stripped of your citizenship if born there.

accidentally come by. Dual citizenship in most cases is a conscious choice, and I don't think it is overly dramatic to respect that choice and say "You have somewhere else to go, so go". In Germany, by comparison, we have a similar law that means that someone who e.g. engages in warfare for a 2/

The German constitution: "No German may be deprived of his citizenship. Loss of citizenship may occur only pursuant to a law and, if it occurs against the will of the person affected, only if he does not become stateless as a result." The law is currently very restrictive but this might change...

The two circumstances are 1) if the citizenship was acquired fraudulently and 2) if you have been convicted of a crime that “seriously hurt Swedish vital interests” (definition pending)

Fucking nazis

How many toilet categories? 😖

But...but socialism will fix all social problems!!!!!!!!

Ughh 🥺 makes me think of “children of Men” film. This is where we are. There’s a huge global network of hard right wing ethnic nationalism utilising fear & systemic issues such as global environmental crisis & wars creating emigration & immigration, & the Overton window has shifted. It’s not good 😳

Great, yet another country on my shit list. I expected better.

Ikea’s aryans…

If it’s any similar to the Icelandic laws, which it probably is, then yes.

Jepp.

... and also *not* in countries (like Sweden) that are party to the European Convention on Nationality (which provides an exhaustive list of grounds on the basis of which people's citizenship can be revoked (and serious crimes is not one of those) www.coe.int/en/web/Conve...

I was curious on what basis/criteria Sweden has decided they can lawfully remove citizenship and if that’s at odds with EU law. I’m no legal expert…

You can explore relevant regulations in these @globalcit.bsky.social databases mapping regulations on loss of citizenship around the world: globalcit.eu/modes-loss-c... see esp L07 for terrorism-related deprivation grounds and L08 for loss based on serious criminal offences (much more rare)

The characterization of different “tiers” is at best disingenuous. But the majority of EU countries have provisions for revoking citizenship from naturalized citizens. The Netherlands for a start.

its not just one step

The only way someone should be able to lose citizenship anywhere is if they themself voluntarily surrender it under no duress or coercion (such as a dual citizen relinquishing one). But even then, nah. Once a citizen, always. Even if it was granted by fraud, the remedy should not be revocation.

So much fucking cope in that thread, assuming OP's healthcare problems must be because they want a facelift at public expense or assuming they don't understand what funding a common good is because they mentioned a lot of their high taxes go to benefits they can't use

Pero ojo, en España son tan listos en UveRedonditaEquix, qué querían quitar la nacionalidad a aquellos españoles que delinquieron. Ni el Art. 1 de la C.E. saben citar sin mearse.

Hatred of immigrants is driving politics all around the democratic world.

Fascism birthed the US. The US is just the loudest about their enthusiasm for it.