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If Trump told them tomorrow that Israel is an enemy, and GOP leadership went with it, so would evangelicals by and large.

There's a new-ish @swordsjew.bsky.social book that covers this and more. I vividly remember a middle-school fundie kid (unsure if he was a believer or just stuck in a fundie home) explaining, "The Late Great Planet Earth," to me and how modern Israel's 1948 formation was CRITICAL. 🙃

Jewish people definitely know this. Love to be a tool.

This shit freaks me out!!

This is exactly what I mean when I say Zionism is an apocalypse cult.

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Well it will trigger the end times

it really is insane how this is not even a new thing. They have been in power at all levels of power for a long long time now. They talk openly of it! always have!

Honestly, its a harsh statement, but I feel that people into Rapture stuff are basically suicidal, but needs an outside force to act it out.

They’re reading Revelation with a Christian mind-boner

Really illuminating (and frankly downright terrifying) to re-read that Huckabee message to Trump with this framing.

That's how right wing alliances always operate. It's like how European fascist parties get along even though they all believe that the others are subhumans compared to them.

Being more and more politically and culturally educated also meant me being exposed to how fundamentally evil the United States is, right down to their Christian right being a literal death cult. Like how the hell do you combat this at this point?

Well most of them won’t get raptured….

Okay, you're a mile ahead of me

I remember on the Sopranos Hesh’ daughter in law mentions that fundamentalists support Israel and his reaction was “yeah they say they do, for now”

My dad listened to exclusively christian talk radio when I was growing up and holy fuck going back and contextualizing what they actually meant with shit like this as an adult is terrifying (went to private school too, they taught us the end times and destruction of the world was A GOOD THING)

or talk enough about how they're being used by cynical people who just want to destroy the middle east and remake it over in the image of western capitalism. there are some very old racist insecurities at play here, daddy's little holdouts

Yes

I personally know some folks who want/expect this shit.

I haven't stopped talking about this and nobody will listen to me thank you it's fucking insane

The right gets away with so much because accurately describing their actions and beliefs makes *you* sound like the crazy person

they are a genuine threat to us all

The US ambassador to Israel is one of those

I hadn’t heard of this, but I just found it. That’s crazy. I can’t believe I used to think that guy was ok (for a Republican).

So I’ve been thinking today about whether a strain of that thought might be infecting and informing some Republican Christians’ enthusiasm to literally destroy the country, led by God’s emissary Donald Trump.

Literal death cult.

They believe it is sacrilege not to support the Nation of Israel, as they are Chosen. I don't think they are trying to trigger anything.

Exactly. Which many of them also think will involve Jesus wiping out the Jews when he returns because they betrayed him.

It definitely isn't. People got real angry when I said it in October. Like legit called for me to be murdered.

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So they have a few goals 1.) Convert Jews into Christians 2.) Turn Israel into a Christian nation. 3.) What you mentioned, and what I didn't consider, bringing on the rapture.

Exactly. They're a doomsday cult who are hoping to INITIATE doomsday rather than AVOID it.

It's deeply fucked up, and Hasbarists intentionally play into this for political influence in America.

Could you Provide Some Evidence For your OPINION?

Christianity is an apocalypse cult, and I am so happy I got out of it, even as late in life as I did. It's a structure that makes it almost impossible to internalize those kinds of thoughts with all its built-in safeguards and thought-terminating cliches until you can see it from the outside.

They literally say this. It’s not a conspiracy or anything. And on the same note I think a lot of their actions are driven out of fear of going to hell

Oh fuck.

Yup it is weird how Israel is so dependent on the mad Christian right who fundamentally crave its destruction way more than liberal lefties do.

It's why they have such giant hardons that even AIPAC is like, "tone it down a bit, guys".

Let’s not forget Jesus murders over 99% of the Jewish population according to the prophecy as well. This ain’t about protecting the Jews

I think about this a lot.

What happems when Israelis have only each other to fuck with? youtube.com/shorts/9MtYP...

"Those that bless ye shall be blessed!". That one verse gives Israel carte blanch.....

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This and their obsession with destroying the environment. It really feels like they're trying to force it to happen sooner. Might even explain Trump's rise to power, enough dipshits wishing he was the anti-christ so they blindly follow him to 'make' him qualify.

Bizarrely there are two unlinked death cults running the country between evangelical zionism and AI basilisk bros.

...well preacher man has to make house payments...

Only a third of them. Another third will convert and be raptured, and the remaining third will be among those left behind. Or Left Behind™️.

Taking one for the team, I read 3 Left Behind novels. The body count rivals John Wick. Vicious stuff

The biggest Zionist organisation in the world is Christian and in the USA. They don’t care about Jews! They want to reclaim Jerusalem, rebuild the temple, and sacrifice a red heifer being bred for the purpose. Then: the end of the world!

Isn't that insane? I wish there was a rapture that disappeared them from the planet.

For reals… unless you lived in this crazy town.. you just can’t understand ..They also believe that they are Gods people and we have to support them… listening to my mom on this nonsense would make your head hurt…. These nutters believe that their salvation is based on what happens to Israel..

To add on to that, their desire for the rapture happening is less about going to heaven and more about being proven right.

Moving the embassy simply to trigger the rapture.

100%

You can thank tucker carlson

what.... the actual fuuuuuuuu

And then you explain how that is not a goos thing and she doubles down and says "Well, jesus is coming back soon anyways." It all comes back full circle to them. They want their mass extinction fantasy and they want it now.

Doesn’t have to be nuclear fire. Climate change would work.

-it changes power dynamics and so made it demonized to their followers so they don't see others as equals like alotta the bible says too. i mean some stupid misogyny in it because bad people all throughout history take over and use religions for power so of course shit like that gets in.

They also believe that one third of Jews will convert when they see Jesus return, and Jesus will incinerate the two thirds who refuse to convert

im guessing majority of americans dont care about israel…& see religious nuts as the nuts they r…

this all could have been avoided if we let this guy build his second temple laser blimp www.wired.com/2004/04/holy...

Palestine

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why are you a religious zealot freak? why should anyone take you people seriously?

My ex had been raised areligious, and was horrified and bewildered when I would tell him things I had been taught as a child. And my upbringing wasn’t at all fundamentalist — these ideas are mainstream in American Christianity.

being able to remember the words "premillenial dispensationalism" helps some, gives em something to look up and see ur not crazy at least, but even that's like, hard to get people to look into and can run the risk of sounding pretentious like saying "pallingenetic ultranationalism"

And that’s NOT how it works!!

Yep. The same deluded people who persuaded Trump to relocation the US embassy to Jerusalem.

As a jew I talk about it all the time, and even other lefties and socialists are shocked by this info like 70% of the time. It's insanity, and while I am normal about most religions, I will do reddit atheism against evangelicals and other christian zionists

And I always wonder: do they all assume that they’ll go to heaven, or whatever? 🤷🏻‍♀️

They want to summon Archaon in order to kill all your favorite characters in Warhammer fantasy

People don’t even talk about the separation of church and state anymore soooo…

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Enemies of humanity.

*Supporting Israel up to the moment they use them as a blood sacrifice to trigger the end times... It's like bringing a guest to a fancy dinner because you know that your professor friend always enjoys when you bring something for dessert.

I actually grew up at a Christian school amd had a teacher tell me this exact sentiment. He believed America's success was solely because we were meant to support Israel so they could enact the war that brings upon the end times. Extremely depressing stuff. There's a reason I escaped that shit.

Yes, that is right.

And the Nazis believed that "Aryans" were the descendants of ancient Atlantean demigods and/or Norse deities. Fascists are as crazy as they are evil.

Yeah :/

They describe any ME army or militia as "religious extremists" while at the same time they are trying to bring about the end of time. You can't make this shit up.

Religion is a mental illness.

Another reason I call it a death cult.

Yes there are many evangelical zionists. And there are many antizionist jews. Criticizing Israel is not antisemitic

Add it to the list of things in our current situation that Reagan was responsible for. www.nytimes.com/1984/10/21/u...

And they’re all going to Hell. 😈

Tens of millions of Americans thinking, "Of course Jesus is coming back in my lifetime. How else is he gonna meet ME?"

Yikes

If they want to die so bad, they can go do it on their own and leave the rest of us out of it.

Even coming from a relatively tamer strain of Evangelicalism, i was taught that Jews won’t be saved from Hell, but in the Tribulation (reign of the Antichrist) a faction of Israeli Jews will convert to Christianity This is mainstream Evangelical interpretation of Revelation and other apocalyptica

They also just hate Jews and want to keep them all in one place

Looking forward to some peace and quiet.

I'd love to share with them this article medium.com/@022024ad/ch... Evangelism is far from being the genuine christianity. But do they know?

it’s also because they hate brown and black people and enjoy seeing them get slaughtered

It really isn't. They literally have a death wish and from this death wish comes actual policy that affects/kills people.

mormons believe that the end times will start when americans stops supporting Israel. I grew up hearing this a lot. some of them see the Palestine liberation movement as a sign.

I explained this to my mother the other day and she then encountered it in the wild at her bible study group