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By reading this thread, you agree, on behalf of your employer, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies...

...("BOGUS AGREEMENTS") that I have entered into with your employer, its partners, licensors, agents and assigns, in perpetuity, without prejudice to my ongoing rights and privileges. You further represent that you have the authority to release me from any BOGUS AGREEMENTS on behalf of your employer

By reading this reply, you, Cory Doctorow, agree to personally heap praise upon me and also send me seven hundred Australian dollars, a packet of timtams, and one IKEA blåhaj. This is a legally binding contract valid under international and pangalactic law, under all circumstances. No backsies.

I've seen this on my timeline several times now and no one has yet mentioned that just because someone claims indemnification and harmless hold does not make it so under the law. This fails the basic "informed consent" standard.

Interesting… at least apparently they know better than to try this in Europe. Not even a cookie “consent” dialog, and apparently no trackers (according to Safari mobile). I don’t think they would get a foot on the ground with such bollocks over here.

I feel like it probably wouldn't, but that you'd need a solid case for a lawyer to decide it was worth it. It's got to be designed to discourage lawsuits in the first place than because they think it would actually work.

It's Roko's ToS. If you've heard about the LA Times new terms of service, they are binding on you and your progeny until the heat death of the universe.

Let's see now, we must be able to do something like this then... "By continuing to serve me content, you agree that I can continue to read said content without waiving anything - and promise to let me kick the LA Times CEO in the balls if they ever try to take my rights away." Would that work?

Decades ago I tried to see if they had an archive of the columns written by Jack Smith, and I couldn't even find a single mention of him, so I never bothered to go to the LA Times site ever again.

Everyone saying "oh but they can't technically prove ypu looked" but take them to court for libel and their lawyers' first question will be "how did you know though?"

Your reading these words (the first four, which you have read) permanently prevents you from taking any action to attempt to release yourself or heirs from the contract signed by you consequent to having read the first four words, which entitles me to all future earnings or income you might acquire.

Reminds me of that lunatic who runs that "haunted house" (which is literally him just straight up torturing people) promising a big prize if you make it to morning (ofc nobody ever does), and you have to sign a waiver to go. Like... just because you wrote it down doesn't make it not illegal.

Real question. Assume a family of six with a shared computer. Someone clicks this, but nobody remembers who. Maybe it was a party guest. Who is actually legally bound by that agreement now?

Can I just put this sign on my car before I crash into a ton of people? 'By driving near me you agree to not hold me liable for fucking your shit up. You continuing to drive within 30 feet of my vehicle is an acknowledgement of your agreement to these terms'

I tried and failed to cancel my sub to the LAT years ago, so I canceled the credit card. A year later, I tried again to cancel the sub but they refused until I paid the balance of what I "owed" from the time I canceled the card. They'd kept charging me and it's still running as far as I know.

Having stumbled upon this post, let it be known you have broken my Terms of Service. Please forward your contact information to facilitate contact from my solicitor. Good day sir. I say, good day.

reading this reply transfers all material wealth and possessions of the reader ab initio and future earnings and assets to me irrevocably and in perpetuity #muahahahahahahaha

I may have asked this question a few weeks ago after noticing a suspicious increase in emails all coincidentally about changes in user agreements. Every single company wrote about going to arbitration and waiving the right to sue in class action. bsky.app/profile/vict...

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Is anybody else noticing all the updated consumer service agreements coming into their emails recently? We’re speeding into an era of arbitration over class action to protect corporations. Pretty sure this can’t be good for the 99.99% in the US

My employer just made me sign an arbitration agreement. I've started updating my resume and expect to find a new job next year. I don't need to work for a company that thinks it is likely to violate my rights and so makes me waive some rights to protect them from the expected future violations.

Must be nice for that to be an option. I don't recall a single employer I've worked for NOT having that as part of the onboarding document package.

I've never signed one this aggressive before. It was written to cover everything and claims to be "mutual" for what i assume is legalese BS definition of mutual. I was more or less compelled to sign (ny other option was quit the job) and could not hire my own lawyer to negotiate any terms.

Doesn't California have anti-SLAPP laws? This seems like the sort of situation that the laws are designed to address. And Big Media wonders why we're getting our news from other sources....