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RFK jr talking about how “autism is only being diagnosed in children, not in older adults, it must be an epidemic” is crazy because have you ever met someone who is 60+ who is clearly autistic and doesn’t realize and suggest they get diagnosed? sometimes they’re offended you even suggest doing that

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Def. a component. Grandpa Harry was bipolar, and was institutionalized once when he really ran off the rails. Grandma Etta snuck lithium salt into his coffee to smooth him out thereafter. But we don't have autistic stories as such.

Learning at 60 years old turned my life upside down. I "managed" life, yeah. That's masking. Only after I unmasked did I see how going undx'd crippled so much potential. Maybe I could have handled my mental illnesses. Maybe I would have learned to shut off all those goddam lights.

Watched an elderly man sitting in front of me on the bus shuffle through his meticulous scrapbook on military vehicles, every single detail about each one, and another handwritten list organised by model number. But sure, autism is brand new.

Autistic individuals were typically viewed as non -verbal & low functioning according to original diagnostic criteria & stigmatised. Hence, older adults' unwillingness to seek a diagnosis for themselves or their children.

RFK spectacularly fails to recognise today's altered criteria & wide diagnostic spectrum, leading to vastly increased numbers of those diagnosed. How is he so stupid?

Also, yeah...developmental "disorders" are most commonly diagnosed in children....because they're, you know, developing. I think his brainworm is more qualified than him.

My great-uncle Jack who died many years ago was “touched in the head.” The description I’ve gotten from family matches autism to a T. But getting diagnosed in the South in the early 20th century wasn’t happening.

As an adult who thinks they have autism but has never been screened for any sort of conditions like autism, these developments make me feel like I'm even less likely to get an answer anytime soon. If anyone knows any good resources for adults looking for autism screenings pls help me out.

My 26-yr-old is *currently* getting the dx. The lack of it nearly killed her as psychosis destroyed her life, and ignorant psychs would say, "she isn't presenting as typically psychotic." I'm 53 and clearly on the spectrum (but I mask with performance) and don't need the dx but RFK Jr is a monster

fr I was diagnosed with adhd at 25 and my mom DEFINITELY has similar symptoms and seems concerned like she wants to fix them, but won't seek out treatment. and yeah obvs she doesn't have to, but she was asking me questions lol.

It's diagnosed in adults, too. RFK Jr. is simply uneducated, ignorant and stupid, and doesn't have a fully functioning brain. It's safe to ignore what he thinks, but not safe to ignore what he does.

There’s no way I’m alone with the whole getting one’s kid diagnosed makes one realize that the super smart, absentminded professor spouse also has autism, and the unbearable mother-in-law also has it. It’s not an epidemic. It clearly has a genetic component.

Pfft! Any peasant can just walk into a store and buy a bike! I mean, what do they cost? A mere $5,000? Only a true blue-blood can afford a stable of falcons and a training course at a falconer training camp in the Mongolian steppes. 🧐

My dad is super into ferns and historical maps, devised novel language systems for fun when he was in middle school, and takes everything *extremely* literally. I still can’t believe it took my fam till he was like 60 to figure out he’s clearly nd

So true. A friend who was ~50 y.o. and I went to a movie about autism spectrum. Afterwards, I asked if he had ever wondered if he was on the spectrum. I said I thought a lot of people, including myself might be. He was furious. We never spoke again.

Back in their day, autism was a hush hush thing. It was considered something caused by cold or distant parenting so people didn't want to diagnose it and parents didn't want to hear it. They also only diagnosed extreme presentations. While those people would just be considered peculiar or touched

“Well, what if the mother is autistic, too?” “Unthinkable! Females are naturally hardwired to be nurturing caretakers! If she’s being cold and strange, she’s probably doing it out of spite! If her brain was truly broken, her parents or husband would’ve shipped her off to an asylum by now!”

Oh, I have. Went thru extended autism training just a few years back, and there are several people in my extended family tree who are on the spectrum & none of them have been diagnosed.

The only reason it’s not getting diagnosed in adults is because it’s RIDICULOUSLY difficult to find a practice that does autism assessments for adults. I’ve called places as far out as 100 miles from me. No one does it. Let alone someone who will accept Medicaid. And I live in an urban area.

I've always been told by every therapist ever that now I'm an adult it's not worth trying to get a diagnosis when it costs $2000+ and I will see no societal or financial benefit because I can still put my clothes on.

All these videos on tik tok of people being cheeky saying they’ve no idea where they got their autism and then standing in front of their dad’s massive train collection or action figure collection or mom’s with various massive collections of very special interest things

Boomers and some older Gen X seem to think that autism is the same as the R word was back in the day. I hate those fossils with every fiber of my being for many , many reasons but this one is a fine enough reason.

Most of the tests are geared toward children and my insurance for example won't cover an autism test after 18. doctors have even told me it's kind of a why bother to get a diagnosis as an adult

There's also the fact that getting diagnosed as an adult involves a months-long waiting list and multiple thousands of dollars. So, even if you suspect, do you really want to jump through those hoops -- especially if you've been living a functional life this whole time?

Neighbor growing up had a fully operating train dogs could ride around on in his backyard. He would pick a day out of the year to let neighbors bring their kids and dogs to let them do it. Anyway, nothing to do with the post above, just a nice story.

this reminded me when i was a child an old man in my neighborhood on a street that went all out decorating for christmas would open his garage and show off his christmas themed train track that went all through his garage, created little scenes and everything. definitely autistic

Did you grow up on NH - MA border? I knew a guy who had a train and alpacas in his backyard, a 20 foot robot in his front yard and a talking gorilla in his garage.

I’m from south of Boston. I had no idea, sometimes I think I imagined it because no one but my sisters (who also made this trip to visit my dad’s friend) ever heard of anything like this.

I'm the reverse of That Guy - diagnosed as a child in the early '90s; Have now aged into having more in common with undiagnosed middle-aged "eccentrics" than zoomers who have grown up self-aware and relatively happy in an online culture largely shaped by ND people and therefore accepting of them.

Like, what I'm saying is it's ironic how sometimes I relate more to older people who are like, "There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not me, I'M TOTALLY NOT BEING DEFENSIVE AT ALL!!" Than those infuriatingly lucky SOBs who got five-ten years or so to have hyperpop and shit just before....

My grandfather was so obviously autistic. He had texture issues with food, horrible at most social situations, temper tantrums, obsessive about his hobbies. When my brother got diagnosed I said "Papa, [brother] is a lot like you. Maybe you're autistic." And he tried to beat me for that

My therapist told me, that as an adult, the only thing a diagnosis will do is allow myself to legally require accommodations from places I work, maybe. And also makes traveling outside the country harder. Everything else is just learning how to take care of yourself the way your brain wants.

Right? And these 70 and 80 year olds who have the oddest collections and special interests they’ve held their whole life, rigid schedules and bedtimes, it’s almost like they would have been diagnosed but they masked and struggled through life instead…

Bananas. My psychiatrist directly said she doesn’t like making adult diagnoses of ADHD because they should’ve been diagnosed when I was a child. Well what if it wasn’t something that got diagnosed when you were a child? Or, like my sitch, my parents didn’t believe in mental health as a thing

My mother, who is very clearly on the spectrum as much as my father is (and all three of us kids), absolutely flipped out when I suggested it to her. She was of the “debutante” generation where they literally taught young girls how to mask and called it “etiquette classes”.

My mom is probably where I got my own brand of neurospice. She will often describe to me a *very autistic thing* happening to her and my suggestions come across as mind-blowing revelations. I neglect to tell her that I'm just passing on autistic coping skills that I learned over time.

That'd be me. I'm 60 and counting. I was never screened between 1964 through today. I'm Neurodivergent AF through several other professionally-diagnosed things, 'manic depression' (BPD 1 or 2 in the newer DSMs), Dyscalculia, and others. My in-laws' kid was diagnosed when they were 9, and -- 1/2

-- boy-howdy did the literature and experiences match me and my experiences. I still haven't been diagnosed by a professional. I can't afford to, and I don't see a need to, but I do think I'm somewhere on the spectrum around AuDHD, especially taking-in the early "*Manic* Depression" diagnoses. 2/2

My grandfather was CLEARLY autistic, (and his kids, myself, and my offspring carry the neurospicy torch) but he was just "particular." Nevermind he had like 4 safe foods, a need for routine, an obsession with tractors and trains, and was easily overstimulated.

Also, guys who fiddled with their HAM radios all day because the internet didn’t exist yet and kids who were obsessed with sci-fi short stories in pulp fiction magazines.

Also, virtually anyone who ever joined an artist colony in the 1960s, all the modernist writers and artists who picked up and moved to Paris in the 1920s… Modernism + Surrealism was basically Media Analysis SpIn!Autism: The Artistic Movement.

I've been saying this to people for years. His obsession with trains (big autism coded) was so deep seated and consistent. He made a rideable model rail in his backyard (at the risk of his family's financial well being) before pushing for Disney Land's train, etc etc.

My dad definitely was and I only realized it looking at my friends who are autistic. I never talked to her m about it because I don't think I could properly explain it to him

So often I'll work with kids and when I meet the parents I think, "Ooooooooh, yes. I see now." And no, the parents weren't diagnosed 20-40 years ago and they aren't pursuing diagnosis now. But if they did... Mmhm.

Also as was pointed out to me after my assessment kerfuffle, there's really not much if any benefit to getting an official diagnosis as an adult. You don't need a diagnosis to benefit from sharing stories / coping strategies with other autistic people, and it's not like there are medications for it.

I had to find out myself I was autistic ar 28 years old. The GM company doctor, Dr. Larley, said "I don't believe in autism, just bad parenting". And so I was never officially diagnosed. This was back in 2001.

OH HEY SAME!! 31 when I was diagnosed but SAME. I asked to be evaluated and the doctor LAUGHED at me and said there was no way I could be autistic because I was very social. I stopped seeing that doctor. And what do you know?? I was diagnosed with ADHD and autism type 1

i figured out in 1982 that I was probably at least a little autistic, and I've been denying it and hiding it ever since. Only after I retired was I really able to talk about it.

That, my friend, is called Masking. Many Neurodivergent people do it so we "Fit in" and people won't think we're weird or crazy. It's stressful and time consuming to keep up. Bet you were exhausted mentally and emotionally every day. I know I was! And I was diagnosed at 8!

When I went into allostatic overload (autistic burnout) at 61, it became clear how much I had been masking my entire life. I had to be told at 60 that I am, & the rapid unmasking broke my mind. I'm still broken two years later, tho there were abuse factors too. Yet...my god, how beautiful it all is

I was just diagnosed about 6 months ago. Of course I’ve been autistic my whole life, but they didn’t pay attention to high masking individuals. They would rather say “you have anxiety, take this pill.”

I’m self-diagnosed, partly because finding someone to assess me in my 60s would be impossible or impossibly expensive. It was my autistic friends online who made me realize I am autistic. It explains so much about my life.

There's also been a huge wave of adult diagnosis of both ASD and ADHD in the last decade. I know personally three or four late diagnosed ASDers and am an ADHDer diagnose at 52. COVID gave a lot of us the first time in our lives we had to breathe and think long enough to realize we were different.

People realizing they worked better in social isolation & a quiet, familiar environment + people spending more time on the internet while social distancing & running into the disabled self-advocacy community with their suspiciously familiar & relatable posts.

Our adult autistic son recently mused that he thought his 70-something dad might be on the spectrum too. After 40 years of marriage, I really feel he is on to something that I could never articulate. Also, calling neurodivergence an "epidemic" is super ableist.

It's beyond dangerous because he's WILLFULLY uninformed. He isn't "just lacking in knowledge but teachable". He is a virulent, hateful asshole deliberately spewing out nasty, actively harmful bullshit, and it's a scandal that he's being allowed to. Horrifying.

Also, sometimes your kid would get possessed by demons that made them uncontrollably flap their arms, repeat sinister incantations, and cry out in pain when suddenly exposed to bright sunlight, so you’d have to call in the local priest for an exorcism.

Yeah, long line of the coin collecting variety of autism on both sides of my family. I watched my mother's head explode processing that one recently. Could have been trains, and at least it's not stamps 🤣🤣🤣

When my kids were diagnosed, because we asked and were concerned by our ability to cope, the process gave us insight the opened our eyes to our own differences and also the differences in those we meet. Undiagnosed ASD is rife in adults. Autism is genetic. RFKJR is an ignorant fuckwit.

My granddad was an engineer and came across a total grump who hated when we came over because it messed with his routine. My niece is gonna be the first in our generation with a dx, but…yeah the autism is traceable.

Lol what!? 1. Autism is absolutely a developmental disorder which means it has to have been present in childhood to even qualify for diagnosis. And 2. I got diagnosed last year. Plenty of adults get diagnosis, though it's extremely difficult and expensive to do so.

My dad is in his 70s and he is totally autistic. Not sure if he knows but the rest of us know. He’s got at least one kid and grandkid with autism diagnoses. He’s always just been a lil odd. “Oh that’s just Abe, he can’t hear you if he’s reading.”

RFK:"I wonder how many people were diagnosed with a brain tumour in the year 1255. I'm guessing none. So there must be something about contemporary society that is causing all these brain tumour diagnoses. " Science:" It's the detec..." RFK: "That's right, it's probably Cheese Whiz"

I'm 60 and the fact is back in the day we said, "he's a bit tetched" or, "keep your eye on Alice." Now we know more than we did then. Like a lot of things. RFK jr. & tRump they just weren't raised right and in the ages they purport to pine after, they never would have risen to leadership.

I'm in my 40s and when I suggested I should maybe get tested for autism he dissuaded me from doing so because it's apparently a long, drawn-out process. But no, it's got to be the vaccines and red M&Ms.