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* grimwire * Opera unite

It’s in the alt-text! tcbmag.com/the-rise-and...

You forgot OpenID! (love the disclaimer on PuSH though because... yeah what a name.)

Fair and no reason you'd know why I have a crypto bone to pick

Nostr mention

couchdb mentioned! atproto feels like couchdb in some ways

HTTP didn't make the cut?

You are making these up

least we forget to include Zot on Hubzilla and @matrix.org, but anyways 👀👀👀

no it's great, it proves the point. it's a big list

At the risk of being too clever by half, as someone reading @timbl.bsky.social's most recent book atm I'd add the originals too!: WWW HTTP HTML

OpenID

+ IndieWeb: WebMention, Micropub, etc

(And to be clear, this is not a complaint about your list; just to add to your point that the modern web stack is one of the great collaborative efforts in human history - multi-decade, multi-lingual, multI-party, etc etc)

Yeah, that’s a great set to add. Font rendering people too.

This is such a small list of open internet shit based in a specific realm of memory So many other projects have kept a fair and open internet

no Hyperdrive, huh?

You mentioned nostr, so I'll wait for the comments to turn into a massive wasp nest. And pubsubhubbub doesn't work with youtube anymore :( At least not on new channels

ah, Diaspora, now that's a name I haven't heard in a while

Veilid from @cultdeadcow.com

Yep, good one. Nextcloud.

... that rss note is really damning these efforts with faint praise, huh :/

i still think ethereum has some strange future

You mentioned that in the talk, yeah. In terms of how the *protocol* works rss/PuSH seems like the best analogy to me, but admittedly I don't have as much knowledge about couchdb's internals—I'm aware of the fundamental model, just never dug into the details.

Starting when? The Simple Mail Transfer Protocol and the Network News Transfer Protocol (or Usenet if you prefer) seem germane, as does Archie.

Yeah, the wink is because it's paul's former project — these lists always miss the list creators' own work

Iroh ⭐️

Microformats

(oops, I duped some too!)

ssb 💜💜 ipfs 💜💜

Peergos

Ohhh now this one I feel bad about

I still use RSS daily.