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New: Reuters has tallied job losses, suspensions and investigations stemming from the reaction to Charlie Kirk's Sept. 10 assassination. Its findings: More than 600 Americans have been punished, and the figure is likely to be an under-count. www.reuters.com/investigatio...

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An adjunct who had taught successfully for 20 years in an academic program I used to direct was fired for his response to a student, not his own and not in the classroom, who initiated a discussion of Kirk’s murder. So at least 601.

We had one employee who made comments on a private Facebook profile. One of her family members or “friends” sent copies of the post to our workplace and demanded that we fire the employee and threatened the company if we did not fire her. This world is dark, man.

Kirk’s widow’s college roommate is Lindsey Halligan. She is a White House insider, who was tasked to be on the Comet etc. prosecutions, and enough of an insider to be in the President;s box at the Us Open, with Bondi, son-in-law Kushner and Granddaughter. Many thought she was Melania in pics.

What I see is an object lesson in the devastation of allowing lies and hate to dominate/control our thoughts. There is a WHOLE LOT of COLLATERAL DAMAGE for all concerned from MTG, to McConnell, Mike Johnson, emigrants, etc.. What rises from the ashes is what matters. Opportunity awaits.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Charlie Kirk wasn’t a good dude, but I condemn his assassination for three reasons. 1. Murder is immoral (duh) 2. Kirk’s death it doesn’t actually solve any problems. 3. It would have hurt Kirk a lot more to see his ambitions thwarted while he was alive.

World wouldn't have been particularly that much better if he had lived to see Trump fail rather than dying like a bitch and then having Trump fail regardless. Also MAGA having a Hitler youth wing helmed by an effective propagandist that has proven difficult to replace is a problem.

I agree with you on #1 but I think you're wrong about #2 and #3. I can't elaborate on #2 without getting into trouble so I'll just address #3. You assume his ambitions would be thwarted. I think we've been spared his inevitable run for POTUS.

If anyone asks your thoughts about Charlie Kirk, it is now OK to say: “You're mentioning someone that was extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about. Whether you like him or didn't like him, things happen.”

He called Martin Luther King Jr an awful person. He trashed Simone BIles for pulling out of the Olympics for mental health reasons. Can't stand his smarmy stupid ugly face. Anyhow he died doing what he loved...hating on other people.

I know a teacher who was put on suspension in the wake of his murder for her anti-DT posts on social media. Not Kirk, DT. After review, her admin allowed her to come back. Very few of her coworkers have stood by her side, and kids parents were livid she was reinstated. It’s destroyed her work life.

I feel so deeply for her because she loves her job and her kids. But now she has ppl whispering behind her back and very few coworkers want to be associated with her. It’s ruined her trust in her coworkers and made her feel isolated and alone. It’s an absolutely horrible situation.

So even the ones who weren’t fired face the impact of this to this day. And this isn’t even to mention the list of professors that Kirk had gathered for years so he and followers could stalk and harass. How that is even allowed to happen is beyond me.

Charlie Kirk was not assassinated. Charlie Kirk was murdered. Charlie Kirk was not a public official covered by assassination statutes. There is no suggestion that the killer was motivated by a contract. Charlie Kirk lacked the public prominence to merit "assassination" in common usage.

Why does it matter? Describing the murder of Charlie Kirk as an "assassination" gives Kirk a status that he did not have and does not merit. It also makes this instance of death by firearm seem unique, rather than yet another murder of this type in a society that refuses to deal with the issue.

For sure. What I found interesting in the conversations that occurred after the murder with the people who claimed to have been supporters was how few of them actually knew anything about him or what he had said. They knew that he supported Trump and knew virtually nothing else.

In common usage, we call people assassins when they target and kill significant public figures. This is so even when the victim doesn't hold public office, and it doesn't require that the killer is paid or expects to be paid.

Consider the usage in the attacks on Dr. King, John Lennon, and Larry Flynt. All three attacks are commonly called assassinations (or attempts.) None of these men ever held public office. No more than one, and possibly none, of their assassins expected to be paid.

People got bored with Trump's project to give Charlie Kirk the Horst Wessel treatment. Trump's followers will barely remember Charlie Kirk by the time the trial of his killer comes around, and we'll have to be subjected to a push from right-wing media to remind them who he was.

Assassins and would-be assassins often have idiosyncratic and/or incoherent motives. See, for instance, Mark David Chapman, Squeaky Fromme, John Hinckley, and Charles Guiteau, none of whom had motives that make a whole lot of sense.

I made this same point regarding language used to label this crime at the time. I don’t think there was ever credible information about the shooter’s motive. It seems like a coverup started immediately by Kash & things have become murkier rather than clearer over time. www.npr.org/2025/09/18/n...

Only amongst the perpetually online, myself included. His supposed supporters who held histrionic vigils for him after Trump tried to Horst Wessel him had next to no idea who he was or what he had said before he was killed.

Most people aren't tuned into American politics. Those that are knew who kirk was. The media landscape has changed to the point that the biggest political commentators aren't necessarily well know to the average person.

A kindergarten assistant was fired for accurately quoting Kirk *before* his death was announced. "Vaughn, a 37-year-old Christian who has taken missionary trips to Guatemala, said her call for prayer was sincere" (Reuters).

And most of them didn’t even say something this bad. bsky.app/profile/atru...

Aaron Rupar@atrupar.com

Trump suggests Khashoggi had it coming: "You're mentioning someone that was extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about. Whether you like him or didn't like him, things happen. But he knew nothing about it. You don't have to embarrass our guest."

What a bunch of fucking snowflakes. I didn't like his views and thought he was a prick, but I wouldn't celebrate his death. A huge number of people did dislike him enough to celebrate it and I couldn't really give a fuck if they did. People certainly shouldn't lose their job over it.

This dude was not a government official, a war hero, a philanthropist, or even a public servant. He was just a guy who used dirty debate techniques to mow over his opponents, NOT interested in problem-solving or actual dialog. It should be illegal to fire people for commenting on Charlie WhoTF Kirk.

Remeber the half million dollars the right funded to the racist lady who was yelling at the black kids in the playground? The Democrats should have dug into their lanyard fund to support these people.

We all need to keep in mind that the only thing that makes firing someone for speech illegal is if you work in the public sector. If you work in the private sector, it's not illegal to fire you for speech. The 1st Amendment constrains the government. It does not constrain private employers.

Some people are saying JD arranged the murder so that him and Erika could be together. I don't believe it. What do you think? bsky.app/profile/good...

Cautious Hope@goodwraith.bsky.social

My guess is that Charlie Kirk was punched many times over the years. Also spat on, called names, and been hated. He must have liked it. It must have worked for him. He lived the life that he chose.

"Thoughts and Prayers" is one of those "Mission Accomplished" phrases in that GOP fu¢kery has completely changed its meaning, so much so that the Radical Right itself now views the phrase as an insult.

The piece fails in mentioning what is arguably the most egregious violation in this government fueled viewpoint discrimination crackdown, the case of Larry Bushart Jr. being arrested and held in jail for over a month w/a two million dollar bail b/c of what he posted about Kirk on Facebook.

The Intercept@theintercept.com

Larry Bushart Jr. spent more than a month in jail after a Tennessee sheriff ordered his arrest for a meme trolling a Charlie Kirk vigil.

No one should be punished for accurately describing who Charlie Kirk was. Charlie Kirk never wanted to debate anyone. He only pretended to want to debate people, as a way to push his far-right extremist views (which in his mind were NEVER up for debate) into mainstream discussion.

Fascist icons are so deeply unpopular that the fascist hive is in a constant flutter to fabricate new ones. In their haste to act for action’s sake, they fail to consider that whoever they prop up today will forever be associated w/ their impending defeat. Where there is no hate, they have no power.

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