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It’s only a matter of time before they show up on Bluesky, whether it’s arrogance, ignorance or the depths of their conservative indoctrinated confidence. I will add while far from woke they are slipping from MAGA REM to conscience reality that results in a hushed cry of victimization by their cult

There is a lot of value in liaising with others who have similar values. It helps build strength in one’s convictions and avoid the toxicity of the Twitter platform and others

Hi, twitter refugee here. I had 2000+ followers and would typically get 1 to 2 views on a post. I now have 6000 followers and get hundreds of interactions so no, i'm good, thanks.

I left when it was still called Twitter. Reenable Trump's account after he incited a violent attack on Congress in session? Buh bye.

There's a significant number of conservative voices on Bluesky. They're not maga. There are also not as many russian bots....yet.

I for one would have loved to not bother with a new interface etc. but the bots and arguing were detrimental and in any case platforms change. That’s how it goes.

Fuck X and MuskRat!

🎯🎯🎯

Winner! Winner! Chicken dinner!

Why support the fascist owner in any form?

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I left Twitter because the algorithm only sent me rightwing nuts. I had to go look for the journalists, historians, authors etc that I had chosen to follow. Every day, a whole feed of wingnuts.

"Keeping them in the torture chamber of X (where, let’s be clear, due to algorithm changes they no longer had any real influence anyway).." Accurately Stated! We were digitally obscured under elmo's algorithmic cloak of invisibility. Practically erased for having thoughts contrary to his.

Exactly.

I miss having *somewhat* rational exchanges with people on the right. It was on a decline before Musk bought it, but then he ran it off a cliff. Counterpoint: Twitter is now a Right Wing Echo Chamber.

Intellectual efforts on the left don’t need to be simple, they need to be understandable to the average person. Liberalism has to be cleansed of neo/cultural/economic/progressive/classical/social/modern and so forth and just be what it is, or just turn it all into one big fight for political power.

What grinds my gears is how ignorant the majority of the user base is about the actual tech stack that makes ATproto special. People don’t want to engage with the tools, they want to have ideological affirmation parties, and they’re sitting on top of a gold mine of decentralized social media

I didn’t want to leave X. I actually had a pretty good following for my hockey stuff. I just couldn’t take it anymore.

So how do we interpret Truth Social then?

I think people also disagree with the idea that posting on Blue sky somehow prevents one from being literally anywhere else as well.

Agreed. Staying on X divides people. -and who could trust Elon w our data not to be used or turned over to Palantir and used by this admin to identify us, isolate us, punish us Ppl on the left already are independent thinking (except for blueMAGA) We need to form solidarity w each other safely

I used to get banned every month for any comment remotely related to rump. I love Bluesky. More people should come over,Twitter is ridiculous!

I got suspended every other day for having an opinion. On the days I didn't get suspended, I either reached no one (with 25k followers) or the only responses were from violently angry nazis. Why do any of us feel the need to sit through that? To waste time and energy to talk to a wall of nazibots?

If you are trying to communicate with likemindeds, it’s Bluesky or Xitter (if your likemindeds are Nazis.) But if you want to actually be influential politically, it’s video on YouTube or Tik Tok.

Absolutely. X is algorithmically heavily skewed right, and likely more than 50% bots, most with right wing agendas. Left wingers posting there is just providing targets to attack.

"I'm leaving!" "You can't leave, I'm kicking you out!" "Stop talking to me!" "OH, so I'm not good enough for you and your friends anymore, is that it?" "No, you're just an asshole!" "You left your dog videos. Are you just going to abandon your dog videos?"

ZOMG so here for horror discourse Or maybe what the best resin printer is for ~$500 Or if there are any classical string players in the Boston area with the time and inclination to do I dunno, Mozart trios or something Or maybe share SteamIDs You know, I'm flexible

When I was on FaceBook, my goal was to dialogue and hopefully influence - minimal success. My goal on BlueSky is more for affirmation and spreading useful information. Because I’m a critical thinker, if I think I’m getting too comfortable in my bubble, I read articles with opposing viewpoints.

Any argument that posits that a commercial social media platform run by and for an oligarch has any validity or benefit, sort of fails the basic test for me.

I don’t live on social media or on this platform. I engage with actual people IRL and only get on BlueSky every couple of days or when I’m stuck in a waiting room like right now & have finished clearing email & reading the paper. I’m a little busy working a local campaign.

It’s nice to have a place where I can have intelligent conversations, share ideas, and get factual information without being insulted and threatened. What’s wrong with that?

me too!

And let's be real: the ONLY reason he bought it (using "buy, borrow, die," btw: another reason to eliminate this loophole) was to serve disinfo and propaganda for TrumPedo so that he could do what he wanted against those investigating him or forcing him to obey the laws once his bought guy was king.

Same.

X got too toxic. I couldn’t help feeling either anger or sad for my country when I opened the app. Why do that to myself?

My question is, why aren't more public figures on blue sky? Especially politicians. They should be on any platform they can get on to connect with constituents.

Bluesky’s algorithms aren’t that different from X. Posts from small accounts get throttled, visibility is limited, & the platform heavily favors big accounts. Most users collect followers without interacting, & for creators unless you have a very large following, it’s hard to get any exposure.

I think we chose to come to the island. I've no less influence here than when I was on FB. Was never on Twitter anyway. My head is not in the sand, just my feet.

Aren’t liberal and progressive ideas makes us progress. If you don’t want to have progressive ideas hand in your car, cell phone, TV, radio, etc.

Well said. I just left because the algorithm didn't show me what I wanted to see anymore. I saw no need to suffer further when there was an alternative. It was probably designed this way.

It wasn’t obvious to me at the time that selling Twitter to Musk would make fascist, misogynists mainstream. Fascinating.

My engagement from 10000 followers had declined from "so much I can't keep up" to "a dozen or so a day" when they paid their first Nazi cash money and I left. It's a huge mistake thinking social media platform views are IID.

Exactly, people shouldn't mistake the result for the cause.

Sitting in the shit with the pigs isn't going to convince the pigs that it's better to be clean. Bigots have nothing new to say. Listening to them squeal accomplishes nothing except giving me a headache. I'm tired of pseudointellectual white men validating each other across the aisle.

True that. The poor excuse for a man is mutated beyond recognizable human form.

Each user must decide what's best for their own mental health. X is so toxic that I couldn't stay. I can use saner sources for right-wing perspectives if I need them.

Why would we need to work around maga bullshittery vs reading reasonable smart Mackery.

It seemed like a good idea at the time, and times change!

Well credit for saying "implication" but I don't think he even implied that! He said it was a net negative for POLITICS not for Pete, Will, and Katie's mental health. What am I missing?

...zuck, who's every bit the Nazi that musk is. And bezos is grotesquely worse, yet we keep pumping money into amazon. Same with paramount, spotify, apple... Yeah, so, this bsky echo chamber nonsense is an intellectual cul-de-sac, and even a counterproductive distraction.

And considering, many of those who stayed on X or underuse BSKY, have to do so, precisely because of the diagnosis. To understand what sh*tty people in power are saying/thinking, you have to use X.

And X HAS become a gleeful torture chamber full of deception. I still have friends over there, but my blood pressure rises if I even peak. Idk why X becoming a bastion of maga is a positive for them but bluesky is somehow bad for us? If nothing else, we get information & affirmation.

I also stayed to fact-check MAGA and write Community Notes. I refuse to cede Twitter to MAGA and allow it to become even more of an echo chamber for their disinformation. Those are my thoughts, for what it's worth.

X sucks

Right. It's like whining that we are not all on News Max, cause that is where the current societal conversation is, that and revenge porn and racism....seriously...blaming self-exiles for Musk and the encroaching fascist media space is ludicrous

I agree, but there are plenty of people here who don't. I see stupid posts every day like "Good morning to everyone who voted for Kamala." That shit is divisive and unhelpful.

Agreed.

After a decade of trying, I have come to realize that there’s no point in arguing with chistofascist zealots. In this context, at least they are no different than some of the most dogmatic Muslims! They don’t know how to listen!

I agree with you Katie Mack, I don't like beating my head against a wall and X has become that wall. Social media in general has become a corporate income producing machine. Facebook is a joke and hasn't been relevant in 15 years. Toc Toc is going the same way. Bluesky is a refuge in the storm.

The institutions that have remained on X are part of the problem too. What does it take to add Blue Sky to their X, IG, and TT feeds? Not much, I imagine.

Being on twitter is a form of self abuse unless you are a white cis het male christian with the sensibility of a 12 yr boy. Bluesky has its problems but it is not the cesspool twitter is

It’s actually rather simple: I will not support with my time, my thoughts, or my money ANYTHING tainted by Elon Musk. What other social media deranged sheep choose to do staying on X is their choice.

That ugly hateful folks are allowed and even encouraged to scream and poopfling because some dented forehead idiot thinks such behaviors are funny or entertaining is our problem, ya'll. Learn how to behave decently in public so we can talk intelligently. That's what "the public" used to be for.

Twitter is the smallest of the consolidated social networks. Too much noise for a shorter reach than it seems.

Yup. That influence died when Twitter got sold. The move to Bluesky was just so people have a sane place to do their microblogging

Twitter became unbearable. Facebook became unbearable before that. COVID was the end for me on FB. When people I grew up with started posting pictures of N95 masks with holes punched in them. Why b confronted with hate?

The keys to one of the world’s most influential social media platforms were handed over to a malignant narcissist sociopath. Options were limited.

And sometimes folks just want PEACE and do not want to deal with the idiots cosigning for racist morons all day everyday🙄

All social media silences anti-establishment voices. Its one of the best propaganda devices since cable news! It is true about bsky being an echo chambers of the worst liberal politics like, "vote blue no matter who."

There’s also the uncomfortable problem that staying on X basically meant being monetized by a Nazi specifically to increase the net value of that Nazi

Indeed. X became a sewer. The smart people climbed out.

I'm not sure I disagree with that. We aren't literally on an island (well, I'm on Java, but most people here aren't). We all still interact with people IRL. Used properly, this could be an incredible way to organize. I'm not going to agree it's a net negative without actual data.

I was there, it was horrible and certainly not better

The changes in algorhytms post-EM taking of tweets did the job long ago. Besides, TVs -not so much the internet- have the higher impact on the majority of voters. Even so, it was an obvious move, the rich had bought the TVs, then the internet when they perceived it could go out of their control.

I left Twitter when musk bought it. On principle I won't go back. Same with Zuckerberg and Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp, etc.

It's important to listen to the dull idiots on X who scream Arrest Obama, Arrest Biden and Arrest Pelosi. The sheer stupidity improves everything.

I was shadow-banned on X. I don’t think more than 2-3 people saw my tweets by the time I left.

Yes. For example, I and others like me were threatened with arrest there by someone now high up in the Trump Administration prior to the election. Didn’t take it seriously at all until both Politico and the WSJ took it seriously….But mainly the deluge of Bots and horrible folks was just terrible.

Exactly who wants to be forced to sit in excrement just because the fascists need someone to throw their shit at!

Thank you, Katie.

There is so much stupid in social media already I don't need to engage on a platform (Twitter) that tries to feed me more stupid. If you don't see the stupid, stay on Twitter.

I miss the blogs, where everyone sees the same thing, the most recent comment is the first thing everyone sees, there’s no algorithm, no character limitation, and no one gets boosted. I miss that kind of long debate.

I can’t see any point in twitter since Musk bought it to push his political agenda. We can sit around here being libtards in EVs laughing at the destruction until they realize how much eggs cost now.

All I can say is that I am happier here.

I’m pretty sure a person could be here and on former Twitter simultaneously.

Exactly. The algorithm changes and absence of moderation make X a smoking ruin.

X is a shithole.

yeah, it's like, are you gonna try to reach people when they're being shouted at or when they've been able to get away from the crowd and its incessant babbling?

I second that sentiment.

Sure wouldn’t have been for me.

Yeah, I think the bigger problem is assuming that X represents “ordinary people and institutions.” To the extent that it does, it’s entirely voluntary, and X itself makes it more difficult to survive as a normie there. The reasons for remaining on such a hostile platform are diminishing quickly.

Twitter (X) is not growing; it is actually frozen, and as time passes, the quantity will drop to house the remaining population that holds the supremacy ideology. X is DJTrump's house, along with Truth Social, as he calls it.

Weirdly personally defensive of their favorite platforms - this, Twitter, Reddit, TikTok (count me in the latter). I am going to file this under that.

Who the hell wants to hang with the crazy white supremacist morons???!? They are morons, and so, not repairable. X is a toxic retreat for all the toxic deplorables, run by the most toxic deplorable of all.

Those people don't deserve your time or attention.

Opposition to the cult is considered an attack. They become defensive and do not hear what is said. Critical thinking is not used when fight/flight is felt. We are controlled by about 30% of the voters who drank the Kookaid. GOP can't stay in power without the cult. So they continue to serve cult!

The reality on X is that anyone Musk doesn't like will be throttled or banned, anyone he agrees with (for now) will be amplified. Anything you say will be droned out by thousands of Vuvuzelas. And Ben Stiller gets called a terrorist for talking about basketball. What's the point of staying there?

Look at X's owner. Anyone who praises and glazes over him should be rethinking about who they really should support and invest their money with. People who are on social media don't want to be bothered with white supremacy ideology, the misogyny, and hatred. X became the breeding ground for hate.

I wish they would have stayed and fought. I don't think the algorithm would have zeroed them out or even been that much of a hindrance.

Also, right-wing talking points are much easier to make, shorter, and easier to get people to believe, because they're so simplistic most of them are half-truths, at best. Whereas left-wing talking points usually take longer to lay out and require just a bit of education and critical thinking.

I wish I could upvote this a few more times.

Lets remove politics from this: This R2D2 photo posted on twitter in October 2010 had over 10,000+ Google search web links 3 DAYS AFTER POSTING ON TWITTER! A few years ago when I left Hellscape (when MUSK told us he'd crawl our content for Grok) I got NO pumpkin engagement. I get lots on Bluesky

🎯 I ran away since I wanted to follow and see posts from real people, not rashist, nazi and MAGA trolls and bots. I don't care if the Nazis, MAGAs and rashists became even more radical in their own echo chamber. They are all whackos anyway.

Very true. The presumption that by trying to communicate on X that any Magas will have their minds changed is a fool's errand. www.nytimes.com/2025/11/24/u...

100%. The algorithm is not free speech or free exchange of ideas. It's the illusion of both. Don't kid yourself that you are seen or heard on X.

X is a toxic hell hole and x needs us more than we need it. I've never regretted deleting the app. The magabrains can all share their shitty views with each other, I dont need or want to be part of it.

And we are educated here by each other.

Bluesky is not "part of the problem". Other sites being owned by boneheads like Elon and Zuck are ALL of the problem.