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Perhaps, but this is the 3rd NoKings - I suspect that the others would also have significant posting - why this time?

That’s not working

If Meta properties were journalistic entities making editorial decisions about what is published, then they would be liable for the content published there. They are not. That's the whole point of Section 230. www.congress.gov/crs-product/...

I am unsure how that distinction matters, unless you are in Germany.

Sadly it’s a private company. They can do what they want as long as it’s not supporting actually illegal content.

First Amendment only applies vis-a-vis the government. Private entities are allowed to say "you can't say that on my property." Even if what they're rejecting is valuable speech.

ITS NOT A MEDIA PLATFORM ITS AGITPROP FOR FUCKS SAKE

It's not punishment to have to testify about how your system works. If indeed it was an automated tripwire, it's important to educate the public and Congress about that.

If it was an accident, we deserve to know how it happened, under oath. If it was a decision, we need to know. The power of Congressional oversight is that we can find out one way or the other.

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Honestly, the entire right wing is just an anti-secular, anti-left hate group that is bought and sold everyday by media execs. If we dont hold them accountable, then we lose our freedoms.

The fact it took ALL DAY to reinstate is baloney! Honestly you Yanks deserve what you get when you are this totally clueless

How can you even think to give Team Zuck or any of these tech robber barons the benefit of the doubt. Was it automated in Brazil? C’mon Mike.

Funny thing is I expect it would take similar amount of time to resolve a tripwire event impacting a MAGA account. I don’t think the effort to resolve NoKings Insta account access was intended to be slow. It is what it was. I expect MAGA would react far more conspiratorially than NoKings.

You're pushing a false narrative. It's more like if my phone company decided to brick my phone because of my politics.

We have to punish and crush tech oligarchs because if we don’t we’ll never have any kind of decent society

It does if it gets better results.

Being on a small*

It isn’t relevant if their purpose is served though. The trade off exists and always has. If you want increased reach, there’s a cost. (Or control). Handing you a flyer won’t cost me as much as putting an ad in the paper.

No amount of work allows you to send posts to a website you are not on. Im not sure what youre trying to say here Do you think its simply lack of effort that keeps someone without a Mastodon account from seeing Mastodon posts?

I disagree.

Sure, ourselves can do it, but what about the other people?

That too, was my point.

It has to be both. You can't take their power away just by not using them. They're scraping everything they can get their hands on, whether you're on their platform or not. Being on the internet makes you subject to it, not just from fb, but other big tech as well, including Google. It has to stop.

This. SO MUCH THIS!!! it's very simple to cancel all meta accounts and x. since i never signed on to tik tok, that's not even an issue.

I’m for this. Facebook brought us trump in 2016.

Editorial rights without liability rights is giving large platforms the ability to foment violence by promoting violent speech from others. And the victims can't sue the fomenters and the police can't arrest them for their role in actual violence. That's a problem!

I don’t want to get into a semantic argument. The only thing I wanted to add if that Facebook has engendered the idea that they don’t pick sides in political fights. Others have punctured that veil, and it’s clearly not true. But knowledge of their favoritism isn’t widely known.

The fact Meta worked with Cambridge Analytica several times plus after CA’s name change to rig various elections beginning 2015/2016 has been enough of a reason to boycott Zuckerberg & ALL of his companies. That’s not even counting his shit with Netanyahu. Fuck Zuckerberg.

Editorial or platform, but never both.

Yes; network effects and natural monopolies are real and significant. Insta is functionally a monopoly and antitrust action to prevent its owners from using their 1A rights *to silence the users they disfavour* is appropriate and legitimate .

This disconnect is because people want to continue using the fascist platforms owned by fascists without any of the negative side effects of participating voluntarily in fascism Sorry, but that's not how this works If you're on FB/Instagram/Tiktok/X then you are at the whims of the fascists

Really bad take. Platforms should not be editorializing beyond safety period.

The problem is, those platforms need to be popular. I like Bluesky and gave up Twitter long ago. But the conversation here feels very walled off. If a big cultural event is happening, it makes me miss the days of old Twitter. Bsky is good for political news/being self righteous and condescending.

Yes, more of today‘s monopolies are natural monopolies due to network effects, but that doesn’t preclude government oversight in nations not sabotaged by the 1A.

How about a law that makes the act of holding any data about an individual without their active consent a crime. Seems better than the endless escalation between the data brokers/spyware device companies/techbro shitcorps trying to steal your data... & the public trying to protect it.

I just found three Mike Masnicks on W Social and followed them all

I think I missed that re zuck (or just forgot) but I hardly ever use it and just have it as a spot where I’d be able to have a way to connect with old friends/acquaintances

And I 100% agree that it is a strategic mistake to build your resistance on platforms owned by the people trying to crush you.

There was a good decade where corporate media did not cover left wing or democratic protests. Then social media demonstrated that you could get clicks by showing them. Then corporate media started covering us again. I did press for protests during the dark age. We need social media.

yeah people spent their time differently before social media.

Mastodon.

Thanks Mike! Always appreciate you clear-eyed analysis.

Just like climate change, government can’t and shouldn’t try to wave a magic wand to solve these things, but they should be deeply involved, and fundamentally democratic in the way they do so. You are confusing an authoritarian government with a democratic one.

Nobody on a platform run by third parties really controls their own account. You can often make people you don't like disappear, but if you like someone and the platform doesn't, tough shit, they're gone, ain't nothing you can do about that. Pretending this one way action is "control" is quite smthg

lol. Wait… you think Zuck is *afraid* of Trump? Hahahahaha. Holy shit.

“Be like MAGA” isn’t the flex you think it is. Also… pretending Zuck isn’t already aligned with the goals of the GOP is dumb.

I need an edit button. The issue actually occurred on Jan 21.

Do you need to see their messages to us? Or the VP of Communications BS excuse? Cause we got that.

Why did No Kings have this response:

Time to take some billionaires trash to the curb. Enough with the fuckery