Post

Ideally there would be a proliferation of apps with different takes on the concept that eventually settle on standard lexicons like the blogging apps did. Looking for "[thing], but on atproto" is too low resolution for the protocol's potential.

yeah honestly, let's just replace everything with ATProto and bluesky. It's time we just blast Fable

Actually, I believe we already have a link-publishing board: Bluesky, with votes (likes). What we need isn’t new lexicons but a new interface (a condensed view with ranking)

I don’t really know if I agree. Link aggregators are “I think this link is neat and I want to share that” but a link on Bluesky is… not always going to be that. Like, if Blizzard Support kept replying to posts for support with a portal link… nobody really cares about that as a link to consume.

tl;dr intent matters. this is also why I think using Bluesky images to feed an Instagram-like client won’t ever really work. Intent matters, not every image I post should be on my photos app.

Build it on atproto AI coders encouraged Have a “check out my atproto project” submissions Include something like lexicon search and global stats for fun

New queue could get some help from network signals for standard site and tangled repos because, you know, open network.

It could code this, theoretically

Wasn‘t tangled a little … not too warm about AI ? (maybe that changed, but that’s the impression I had)

I've been thinking a little bit about a "personal HN". @spacecowboy17.bsky.social's latest like "cross-atproto" for you stuff could be a really good starting point.

Speaking of which, can you spot an Easter egg? bsky.app/profile/spac...

Yes, but

Time to find out how good the aimod stack is

Just hand it to Jev

I mean, obviously quite good right

It’s a community moderation, Michael, how hard could it be?

I mean the substrate it’s built on isn’t going to save it? Because the problem, so to speak, with HN or lobste.rs, isn’t a technical one at all.

Yep, the tech element is just fun and side elements. This is ultimately a community thing.

LLMs as mods! What could possibly go wrong??

@jola.dev made shelf.cafe jola.dev/posts/buildi...

Thank you for the shout out! I've been working on improvements to the underlying Elixir libraries and released new versions today, so next up is a bunch of UI improvements for Shelf. I want to make new comments and replies much more visible! I love that it's seeing more users!

this is a silly complaint but i think something about the ui for shelf.cafe feels "overengineered" compared to e.g. hn or lobste.rs in that there is almost too much polish- the alternatives have very minimal and inobtrusive styling, wide layouts, etc and i think it creates a good character!

Convenient timing, last week I was just working on a mini Coves as a self-hosted package that runs a single community with an HN/lobsters-style layout plus all the atproto infra. It inherits Coves' moderation and config options and federates back to the main server.

lobsters is open source, could just host a sister-site, right?

Already exists!

@upvote.at is happening by @bnb.im!

<: lmk if there’s anything to improve or anything you’d want to see Also make sure to try out the upvote by DM feature (opt-in, enable it in settings)

I’ve been building that for a while in my spare time, working on AI bot automations right now too caterpilla.rs

OK so I tried to talk myself out of this since there is prior art but I wanted to see if I could guide something into existence. No aimod "yet". If it falls over I can just stand a new one up and it would just rebuild itself from the firehose. The base is there and "it should work"(tm) threaded.at

shelf.cafe upvote.at

@bnb.im and @jola.dev - if I get serious about this I'll reach out the key ingredient IMO is having fun and goofing around together, I'm certainly not trying to make the Next Great Forum

It has definitely been a lot of fun so far, implementing an AppView that properly ingests from jetstream, ingesting and applying labels, tracking Bluesky post backlinks and rendering threads, bloom filters, oauth client library, etc.