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It's not the money that matters to them, any more. It become just a method of keeping score in a billionaire's King of the Hill game.

(In retrospect, the ballot init that passed the constitutional amendment—long story as to why it's that and not just a law—should have also been earmarked for affordable housing, one of the HUGE problems we are still facing.)

The “no income tax” bit goes a loooooong way, though. You’ve got to drink and drive a LOT (and hopefully never at the same time) before you’re paying the ~$5k extra that you’re saving by not paying income tax

to steal someone's line i saw, I'll worry about the rich leaving New York once DoorDash offers to deliver from Le Bernardin to Palm Beach

This

I believe there's research for it. I definitely didn't make it up myself, though I couldn't swear to it in court.

Is the ongoing saga of the pierogi the funniest downstream consequence of all of this shit?

and those taxes will make the city prosper which will in turn make it the kind of place the rich want to live.

Also...

Rich people who live in New York do so because they love New York (even if they pretend to hate New York). And they're not going to leave to save money because they know they're going to hate wherever else they are.

"again denied pierogi" is one of the phrases in the English language

That’s why the canard about taxing the rich will lead to less investment or some other doom is highly exaggerated. A good opportunity is a good opportunity and even with higher taxation the US is still a great place for business unless Trump destroys it with corruption and mafia tactics.

I have a very rich relative who moved to NV from CA for lower taxes... and recently returned to CA because Nevada is a shit place to live.

Bill Ackman won’t leave New York City and they won’t even sell him a shawarma with extra white sauce.

stark contrast between those rich enough to live wherever they wanted acting indignant over policy they wouldn't even notice if it wasn't in the news, but not actually moving... and asylum seekers who have hardly anything willing to walk thousands of miles for a chance to live *anywhere* in the U.S.

Most of the reason to even want to be rich is so you can live where you want to live regardless of how much it costs.

Fuck that dude. No pierogis for fascist stooges.

The kind of person who has a billion dollars and lives in Omaha isn't going to be pushed to leave by anything short of total wealth confiscation, because it's always going to be someone like Buffet who loves the place

I think this also speaks to the race to the bottom and the libertarian threats thereof. Moving a home, a community, or a business requires time and resources. The threat of a race to the bottom guts taxes and regulations before they're instituted. We need to call the bluff.

What are these silly conservatives think millionaires come from? Don't they realize that it takes, as the article says, "a talent pool, livability, and renowned schools" to attract the foundations of wealth? You get that through taxes & the services they provide, not some Underpants Gnome scheme.

Ain't no one leaving NYC to move to West Jesus, Wyoming to save a few thousand dollars who wasn't already inclined to play pretend cowboy.

Yeah, the only way I’ll ever leave Southern California again is if we have no water or I’m driven out by the military.

even if they do leave, so what? someone else will buy their $$$ house; someone else is willing and able to do their job.

A lot of New Yorkers who move to Florida end up hating it cause this place sucks. I would know because I get yelled at by them at work In a stunning turn of events, the government of Florida isn’t gonna be there to help them like the government of New York is

Oh, to tax the motherfuckers in California. I think the sheer coinage would make the east coast weep. You can't overestimate coastal elites rolling in their privilege thinking it's normal

If you are that rich, you were already planning to move to Florida (or insert other place here) at some point anyway. At most the tax change works as the impetuous to actually make the move.

They have a home in SWFL so it is moot. Pretending these wealthy people are “stuck” is stupidity. But it’s… apparently “newsworthy”.

It's also a great additional reason to tax them

You are far more likely to lose middle-class folks to thebnext state over due to over taxation than you are the ultra wealthy to marginal tax increases.

No, they won't, that's not true, Charlie Brown, hoes, etc etc

I moved there as a kid, after 20 years made my way back and neither I nor my born-and-raised wife would even consider moving back.

I think we might be accidentally creating a social experiment where many more Conservatives will retire to Florida, while many more Liberals retire to Arizona, with Texas somewhere in between.

Desantis is trying to sway them with his elimination of property tax push. But that’s just going to cause more issues for Floridians than I think Floridians realize. I guess they’ll enjoy the (at a minimum) doubling of sales tax that will have to occur. A regressive tax on a service industry state.

I feel the same way about the Chilmark Public Library.

It's certainly one of the best!

one of the funnier bits about moving from a blue state to a red state is that red states still need money to run things and will often just collect it via fees instead so you pay less in taxes but everything else is more expensive and you don’t actually come out much better

You know why the rich don’t leave the places the tax the fucking rich? Because you can stop at any place in your town, spread your arms wide, smile upon the gleaming streets and wrought-iron light poles and quaint painted signs and say, “Your tax dollars at work!”

it bring a smile to everyone's face every time you do it.

I refuse to defend this place. I live here because my wife does.

I live in Florida and I totally fucking agree.

If I win the Powerball, I am 100% gonna move someplace with higher taxes and more bullshit, you can pay people to worry about that shit.