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Your apology is appropriate and appreciated. But I certainly understand the anger.

If we do not take a risk and put ourselves upon this task of holding our goverment and states accountable to justice and democracy for the people, these authoritarian actors within our borders will only continue to cause more suffering because they are suffering. We must break the cycle.

Log off forever, Internet is clearly not healthy for you.

Don't worry there are also the posts she made mocking Ukrainians

anyway i think all israeli and american citizens and probably all british citizens too should go through a de-pogramming process to thoroughly unfuck all the shit they've had conditioned into them

appreciate the apology

Fuck you

Meanwhile on Israeli Twitter every "translate tweet" uncovers the most vile shit imaginable

you know you're right. I know you're right. a lot of ppl don't. they don't want to deal with the chaos of nuance. that's fine. what isn't is making their lack-of-understanding problem a you problem. because you comprehend all too well the reality of this shitslop world.

Shouldn't have apologized. Thats like apologizing for saying there were no innocent Rhodesians. If these bottom feeders wanna cry NotAllNazis let em

nothing you said was any worse than how Israeli officals talk about Gaza, which is apparently fine according to western governments

At least this post managed to drudge up the lib zionists among the "left"

You are insanely misinformed. Seek help.

thank you

I mean, this is the same view that Norman Finkelstein has. 80% of Israelis think Palestine should be wiped out.

When the U.S. government genocided the native Americans they explicitly put “innocent” civilians who happened to be poor on the border as a bulwark to protect the rich from reprisals from natives Nobody today talks about those people being killed because we know they were part of a genocidal process

What being on Twitter does to a person

But we don’t have to handwave anything.

Liberals talk about war like soulless amoral robots.

You were correct the first time. Especially since so many of the civilians killed were at a festival next to an open air prison. That's grim colonizer shit.

You said nothing wrong

You really shouldn't, especially because diet ethan klien losers tried attacking you. Those some of the weakest people around

Nah, you good.

Thank you

Is this deleted?

That goes to show you know nothing about the history of the United States. It's fundamentally cruel and twisted. As is Israel.

Americans were a contemptible group of fascists before Trump was ever in the spotlight Now how you wanna act?

Dragged by their parents is so funny lol poor babies </3

82% of Israeli citizens support the genocide. This means that if you randomly met five Israelis in an elevator, four out of these five Israelis would tell you that killing all Palestinians is good.

i mean its a huge number of them, and does it matter if not everyone supports trump. the gaza genocide happened under biden, obama was terrorizing libya, clinton bombed iraq. their internal disputes dont change that youre getting bombed either way

we cannot control the conditions of our birth and many many israelis have proven this by choosing to go to prison rather than serve the iof

respect the apology, and thanks for it

big 📠, but bigger of you

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Thanks. Was pondering this after listening to you on Kill the Computer and trying to reconcile the two.

This isn’t meant to be a gotcha or anything, but your apology is for the way you phrased your anger. It feels like you haven’t fully realized that the anger was based on Mamdani saying basically what you believe.

seems like just another instance of social media obliterating all nuance and/or people automatically taking the worst possible interpretation of a trans woman's words then

Jesus what a fucking gross thing to say because you’re mad on the internet.

Meh, there were no innocent Nazis either

For some reason I doubt that the people pissed at you for saying that get upset that more than half of the Israeli population believe every single Gazan is a terrorist

Rape is resistance? Fuck you. www.bbc.com/news/world-m...

don’t apologize, don’t capitulate, this take was 1000% correct

I don't know if we should consider children in a country as citizens of said country, as they don't have the agency to choose their location

Why? There's no such thing as an innocent colonial settler living or supporting a country built on fundamentals of ethnic cleansing. It makes no sense. Choosing to go to a music festival on stolen land while the natives are being held behind fences closeby makes you complicit in it's actions

It's cool that whenever people apologize on the internet there's hundreds of replies yelling that they should have doubled down and actually apologizing is for weak cowards. Like holy shit everyone calm down. "Yes my liege crush them" scheming eunuch type ahhh behavior.

That you posted something like that… Please take a step back - multiple steps back, even! - and reassess, well, a lot of things.

Tbh, there isn't any need to apologize, you said nothing wrong. Israel ultimately, as it it now, shouldn't exist, no country should be a fascist ethno-state, especially when they purposely conflate their fascist ideology with a historically oppressed minority.

Still waiting for you to do the same for Ukraine

Too many people are quick to take words said in frustration and anger as a "gotcha", and gleefully pretend they've never said something they don't agree with. That said I think getting off of X would be good for you, and everyone tbh.

To late fuckface. You're an antisemitic Douchebag. Fuck off.

thank you. people are allowed to walk back takes and it's appreciated.

This seems sincere and the respectable course of action, under the circumstances 👍 Free advice, related: It kinda feels like you should get off Twitter. It ain't good for anybody 🙏

All we can do is the best we can. Hope your day treats you better.

Your original take is correct here. Israelis and USians are complicit. That includes myself. Just because you aren't innocent doesn't mean you have to be thrown into the pit of unending torment or something

Sure, but they are a single digit minority

yeah the vast majority of Americans, and humans are innocent of war crimes and guilty of common and normal human flaws

Yikes. I suddenly remembered that Michelle Wu is a notorious transphobe. I’d mercifully forgotten about them. I’m sorry that I interacted with them.

There will never bee a free and peaceful world with americans in it, I will tell you that much

Yes, lots of them. I'm of German descent. Does that mean I am responsible for the Holocaust? No. and the same applies to innocent Americans,

If we are specifically talking about war and not like schoolyard bullying or something, then only children are completely innocent. The rest of us have varying levels of complicity. You could make an argument that someone who is comatose or otherwise unable to act is also innocent here.

Nope, and any who would admit it are at risk of getting it undone in tax litigation.

You should delete your X account. You’re getting fried over there.

ok david duke

Sophie Scholl's existence is not a negation of total Nazi cultural domination of her country

Sure but their country shouldn't exist. Would be nice if they could simply dissolve the occupation and form a new egalitarian modern state instead and no one would have to die (except war criminals in a very just tribunal)

It's like 15 people total, but sure.

Who was that gal, a Bey or Tay fan account who went radio silent for 6 months and when they came back they were just like "oh I was in jail for not joining the IDF" lol. Absolute queen shit.

If that makes Palestinians all terrorists, than so are Israelis as they support the terroristic actions of the IDF by a majority too

The Israeli state is evil. A lot of Israeli civilians support the genocidal actions of the state. That doesn’t mean we should waver in our opposition to collective punishment

I think the point you were trying to make is accurate, it's just the definitive "no innocent Israeli"and "every Israeli is idf" when there are some who have refused and went to jail or fled.

Zionists come after you for literally repeating their daily talking points on Palestinians, only directed back at Israelis, but gleefully ignore this: bsky.app/profile/nied...

Israel indiscriminately slaughters civilians its forced into ghettos, with the vast majority believing that children will grow up to be terrorists, and thus must he killed. For some reason we have infinite charity for zionists, but anti-zionists must he subject to the most bad-faith interpretations.

This is a space for free speech, community and learning. We all have said things in a heated moment that we might not have thought out fully, and while IRL we just shrug and move on, the Internet is not so forgiving... But the number of people in the replies happy to sacrifice children of Gaza? 🤮😡

what’s wrong about this? it’s phrased harsh sure but it’s all just factual.

Apology accepted but no longer following. Just as love is love, so hate is hate. I hope you have learned from this. Truly

Yeah they just couldn’t help doing some racism in a supposed call out post which is fascinating stuff

For what its worth, iirc a Taylor swift fan account operator, who was an Israeli citizen, chose imprisonment instead of serving in the IDF.

no one immune to propaganda. not even you.

You said nothing wrong, stop apologizing, they never do why should we, every Israeli is a valid military target

bsky.app/profile/dany...

this is really embarrassing to post, delete Twitter, go outside

thousands of dead Palestinians stopped rolling in their mass graves when you stopped fighting for their rights, thank GOD getting ratiod on Twitter matters more than what you really believe in delete this shit and stop acting like internet points on Twitter matter more than your fucking morality

Good. Please do not repeat this mistake.

i don't know if those posts were recent but i sincerely believe you need to cut your losses and leave that site because it's not worth losing composure over the losers that prosper from it.

be the change you wish to see in the world then

every Israeli adult has served in the IDF though.

I'm guessing you have ever seen the October videos

Well done. More people should be able to say this when necessary.

"No innocent Israelis" is too totalizing and yes children too young to have yet had a choice to join the IDF or not ought to get a pass. But it's worth noting that the IDF and Israeli government 100% treats Palestinian children and indeed every Palestinian like they are already Hamas combatants.

I wonder if these people understand that this nihilistic pro 10/7 stance will only lead to more suffering. More animosity. And not just against Israelis. Hamas is a literal dead end. No capacity for governance. Just fanatical chaos, oppression and death. Much of it against Palestinians.

That jumped out to me as well. So much online discourse is colored by the fact that social media is inundating us with images of violence.

I think youre fine. I think you could say israelis are complicit in the genocide and occupation if not dissidents and itd be fair. Would never warrant civilian death but it does warrant arms embargo, sanctions, and even invasion at the height of the genocide if no other methods deter.

thank you. villainizing an entire people is not the way to oppose genocide.

I think you would find that June does not think we as Americans have clean hands and are not responsible

I’m with Charles on this one. bsky.app/profile/char...

I’m not sure I understand what you said was wrong.

Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant

You were right the first time.

Sorry, strong disagree. Not honorable to only apologize when something horrible you said "breaks containment."