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Where can I get my fire dust tested?

Thank you for the information.

Who did your test? Can you recommend them or the kit that you used?

That's my point, sort of.

Wondering about the potential sources of Zirconium and Rubidium. Lead is bad, Titanium is nothing to worry about.

Need I say I'm glad you and your dept are doing this! Any plans for decontaminating your home, or is that part of a very long to-do list?

@lisaschoyer.bsky.social

#California

What area are you in? How far from the fire?

exposure.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0961953403001041 2/

LA country. ~2 miles from the Eaton ignition point.

Same

It’s scary, seem it too many times to count. I want to scream: Please, please, please take care of yourselves, you are our warriors, we need you healthy, it may not get you today but years from now it will. You will be a mentor to the next warrior, you are no good sick!

I’m within a half mile of a burn zone. Should I even be living inside my home?

I’m so afraid Californians will suffer future illnesses, cancers like those caused by the smoke & debris from the Twin Towers 💔 Frightening to see people with no breathing protections standing amidst the rubble of completely destroyed homes It must be toxic. Please try to stay safe 🙏 Love from NYC

I'm working on a spreadsheet for folks' experiences so far so I can send a letter to @gavinnewsom.bsky.social @governor.ca.gov about what a shitshow this has been for standing homes.

good question. Probably most of the ash is more or less the same composition. People are doing a broader study to check. But if it is ash I would assume it needs to leave the house. safely.

how far south are you going

No clue

In XRF you are usually hearing the sample a ton to get it to fluoresce X-rays. When done in the atmosphere this typically oxidizes anything in the sample that wasn’t already bonded with oxygen. All iron commonly is assumed to become iron (III) by the end, for example.

Have you watched Jane Williams on Urgent Future? Fascinating, lots of info, and quite clear that AQI will not tell the story. She also had a lot of good info on the Coalotion for Clean Air webinar. youtu.be/F6W-N1J4cqw?...

@plutokiller.com I live at the top of hastings ranch and most of my neighbors burned down. I am concerned about toxic materials in my house and on my property. I don't have access to a fancy science lab. Is there a testing company you recommend?

It will also cause your vehicles to rust faster if not removed.

This is in the same vein as when we had flooding here in WNC; the mud that amassed N of a plastic manufacturer and a sewage treatment plant was highly suspect, and may take years for us of reaping the effects.

Turns out, Green Planet and PuroClean also propose power-washing all those toxins straight into the soil, groundwater, and storm drains.

🙏

A friend worked in NYC near Ground Zero. He died in his early 50's from an extremely aggressive cancer from exposure to toxic airborne materials. LA residents will see an increase in cardiac, lung & cancers from exposure to toxic air & soil. My heart goes out to everyone impacted by the fires.

That’s plain scary. Take care!

fascinating

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Good to know info and I’m sure more scary details will come

30 feet! I like the asbestos testing idea.

out of curiosity where was the sample taken neighborhoodwise in relation to the fire having a hard time letting my toddler touch basically anything and I'm down in South LA

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I agree, but XRF is a chemical method and would not ever be able to detect it.

It would seem that the US was slower to outlaw asbestos in construction than other countries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbesto...

seems very likely

wondering about how much asbestos may be in those ashes...

btw, is this an analysis of white ash or black soot? Or a mixture? 30 feet from a burned structure?

The magnitude is stunning! We need a massive toxic cleanup plan. I expect that the most expedient means of recovery will prevail. If so, in a decade we will have tens of thousands of people sick and dying in exactly the same manner as the World Trade Center first responders do now. #ToxicTort

wHat cOuLd poSsiBly bE caUsinG cAnCer RateS to sPiKe?

Bruh 🤔😒🤯😱🤮

My sister, a nurse, did a big epidemiology paper about the 9/11 ash. Not good. Very unsafe. Take precautions!

#chemsky

I feel bad for the firefighters and first responders who may have breathed this in over the course of a week.

The AirVidual app is better/easier to read

Absolutely, and 150 miles downwind, but Culver City and far inland from it are mask and glove and then shower/wash hair and clothes of spending any time outside for months… this cleanup could take a year+

Many toxic substances can be absorbed directly through your skin, including many toxic metals like lead, so it’s NOT enough to wear masks. During clean-ups, it’s also important to wear chemical-proof gloves, arm gauntlets, & other covers you can shed & keep separate from your life & family.

Might be a good idea for local governments or neighborhood associations to invest in several hand-held XRF analyzers, to spot-check and double-check the toxic metal & other contamination levels in each property owner’s individual home & yard soil. Just touch it to a sample to know the toxicity.

Just like Christie Todd Whitman said after 9/11 that there was nothing to fear from the dust and debris.

I’m so sorry. Those lead & arsenic levels are especially high. Once the primary clean-up is done, it could be worthwhile doing “phyto-remediation.” (Grow specific plants to extract toxins from soil, then pull up & dispose of plants).

Awesome....you have a GC in your house

Can you confirm if this is correct: "EPA’s standard for lead in bare soil in play areas is 400 parts per million (ppm) by weight and 1200 ppm for non-play areas." (several online web pages). One did say the EPA recently lowered the "play area" level to 200 ppm. I suppose less is better.

PM 2.5 of sulfate, nitrate, and silicon dioxide is not great. PM 2.5 of lead is terrible!

Would you be interested to run an analysis on the ash from our area?

Just the zinc alone will make you sick

This is great info, thank you. Following!

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There is a Zoom meeting 7 pm today to strategize aggregating data to present to public servants, insurers, and smoke-remediation providers to facilitate safe return. Could you come, @plutokiller?

Just FYI for people out there: the EPA residential cleanup standard for lead in soil is 200 parts per million (ppm). 100 ppm if children or pregnant women are present.

Probably not going to kill you, but any amount of heavy metals entering your system is bad. People who live in fire prone areas tend to have higher rates of lung disease and cancer. Wear a mask.

And then there was that lithium battery plant explosion in Moss Landing.

My bad!

198ppm seems... scary high?

30m from an Eaton fire location makes the plan for 6 inches down worthwhile bc I heard, this particular area hasn't burned since being inhabited. In Palisades, a control sample should be more like from 6ft under. Bc I think it burned at least once since ubiquitous use of modern materials/toxins.🤔

I would also do it before the rain this weekend.

Most people I know checking their burnt house aren’t wearing good protective gear. They won’t listen! It’s sad

This also raises many questions about how you take baths.

Most of the fires that have burned nearby in recent past have been predominantly wildland fires. Not thousands of homes plus paint stores, gas stations, industrial businesses. Would be different composition. But the fireworks residue seems like it has been a constant for ever.

Maybe I can put it in little bottles and sell them as mini-homes.

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Thank you, and please keep up this important work! Curious about the measures after you take that control sample.

I’ve been thinking about this as I start a literature dive on chronic exposure wrt debris cleanup of the area— should probably see how it actually compares to just living in smog city.

Don’t forget Fukushima. Winds & water traveled east from Japan.

I was the idiot who sat in back of class and caused disruption while people like you applied themselves. BRAVO!

Superman's pubes

Soil, water. It's ubiquitous.

The Strontium Fairy.

Isotopic analysis upcoming!