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I'd be interested in some thoughts from Americans on here on an idea: Over the last 5 years, have you found yourself identifying more with your home state than the US as a whole over time?

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It's interesting how different people have interpreted "home state" and also so many of you identified city first, which is interesting. And quite a few "New Englands", "Cascadias", and NYC Tri States.

Yeah, NYC native and current resident here, and I've also lived upstate NY (close to Plattsburgh). I identify with NYC more than NY State, and NY State more than most America.

I've lived outside my home state, CA, for 20+ years, but I'd still rather say that I'm from there than an American. And my home state of the last 20 years has been Texas, and I sure as hell won't claim that. It's a train wreck. I'm a Californian or a Los Angelino through and through.

Opposite for me. In my youth, I used to say I wouldn't go to war for the US but I would for NYC. As folks try to narrow US identity I increasingly claim it for myself (esp as I have roots in the southeast and Midwest and spent formative years on the west coast) and insist on an expansive definition.

I am a Clevelander, I was born one, I will die one, my family have been Clevelanders for 150 years We saw the rise of standard oil The depravity of the Ohio gang of Warren G Harding We built the planes and tanks to send hitler to hell

I was a military brat who got dragged to a new state every couple of years, so I never had a home state. And as the kid of a Vietnam vet I grew up with a rather unvarnished view of American virtue. All of which is to say: Cascadia or bust!

I’ve been in California for 25 years and yes, I’m often more inclined recently to fly the bear flag than the Stars and Stripes. However, I have a conflicting impulse as a retired federal employee (USEPA), where for many years I worked to protect the environment, and was happy to wear my flag pin.

not really, but i've identified with the state i grew up in (rhode island) much more than i identify with the US at large for a long time already. i think some states lend themselves to this more easily

No, it's all bad. I'm theoretically from DC, grew up mostly in Maryland, went to school in Virginia, and lived in California for over half of my life. Now I live in Germany, and can honestly say that all those places suck. No public transport. No workers rights. No socialized medicine...

It ain't easy being an immigrant here, but citizens here have it much better than folks in the US, IMHO. Just the idea that people get to go home at the end of the work day, and have reasonable alternatives to driving is huge!

Former New Yorker, Marylander, Texan, Californian, and New Jersey gal. After leaving Texas, I definitely had more of a "regional" identity. I left the United States feeling a strong affinity for Western New York and the Finger Lakes region. Fuck the USA; I'm from Rochester.

Yes and no. Ohio is a hell state that overall is just as bad as the whole nation. But I feel more connected to the grass roots movements and people who fight every day for the beauty that is here.

More so with PA than with MI (where I live now), but I've always identified with my northeast roots around things like infrastructure, density, pizza, and stuff like conservation which they don't do in MI. I identify with MANY elements of the US at large, though.

For example: for all of the sins of this country, there are elements of American hospitality, conviviality, congeniality, etc., that are just absent from much of Europe, ranging from community dynamics to customer service. But I have encountered those things in Latin America, oddly enough

I've been identifying as a Californian since energy companies robbed us by manipulating electric plant outages, and the rest of the country laughed at us and said it was our own fault. So, over the last 25 years, yes. And I was only living here for three years at the time.

I've lived in Ohio long enough to be "from" here now, so no. I grew up in Indiana, so also no. If anything, I'm proud of being from The Great Lakes and/or The North Coast.

Nah, my home state sucks beyond the telling of it. I was glad to leave it and never return. The state I *chose* to live in? I love and honor. And when we do something horrible (e.g. proposition 8, outlawing gay marriage) I have hope that it can be put right.

When I was young I had a different impression of America & now I see myself as a Californian because I can't deny my own origins. 🤷‍♂️ I don't trust Republicans to accept my choices or my bronzed skin so these days I don't really feel a brotherhood with that side of America.

sort of, but then somebody like Ted Wheeler or Tina Kotek gets elected and I remember that I moved away from there for a reason. I will say that I haven't completely given up on (northwestern) Oregon like I have the US as a whole, though…

It’s not just recently, but when I travel I generally tell people I’m from New York City rather than “America”. It engenders a very difference response.

i've always felt more like a (NY/NJ/CT) tristater than anything else, and defintely moreso now. (we are not perfect!!! it's the most populous region of the country and we could do a lot better with our influence)

Yes, I grew up in Western New York state & am a longtime Buffalo resident. Also, we’re so close to Canada that I feel like I identify more with Canadians than red state Americans.

At the moment Maryland/DC definitely, but the one time I went overseas in 2023, when someone asked I answered “I’m American.” I don’t know what I’d say now.

Definitely. Arizona, esp the valley, is…. Well, it’s home lmao. We are loud and strange. You have a whole lot of everybody here. Moved here from fleeing Texas over a decade ago and I don’t think I could ever leave if I had any say in the matter.

I fled my home state of Georgia and moved to Massachusetts. I definitely don't identify with Georgia and I've only been in Mass for six months, so I don't really identify with it yet.

This is a hard one. I do identify with Texas in a vague way but it’s at the forefront of so many shitty things. I used to be able to be like “oh but I live in Austin” but Austin is starting to be associated with more and more shitty things. I just want to get out of here

I have barely identified as an American since 2016. I think I find solidarity with people who have similar climate and socioeconomic conditions as me. That does even always include my entire state! NY is too big. XD

Was just talking about this with a couple of friends this week. All of us were agreeing that we we're more likely to call ourselves Californians than Americans. This included one adult transplant, one childhood transplant, and one born & raised Angeleno.

I live outside the US now but I definitely feel like a Philadelphian and a New Yorker (both city and state) than an American. I don’t feel more Canadian than American but I think that’s because it’s my job to be an American (I’m a prof of US politics).

No? My home state is great, but growing up I've always disliked those kind of people. The "my allegiance is to Iowa not the United States". They always seemed to my as the kinds of people who speak "we should care for our own (state) and not send taxes to DC.

Especially studying history when the prioritization of states over the union led to some disastrous results. There's just too much baggage associated with those ideas to say I'm a Mainer first.

Yours is the only comment I've seen in this thread that sees the macro perspective, & consequence, of this question's framing & where the responses lead. Why foment this discourse? What is the OP's motivation even asking? This is not harmless curiosity.

I just spoke of my personal relationship toward that kind of attitude. I think identifying with a state is fine, great even, building a local community is awesome. Its just that kind of attitude is too associated with state first, nation second kind of thoughts that make it impossible for me.

For sure. I will be the first person to tell you Massachusetts exceptionalism is a problem but there is real opportunity to get some important work done here. Opportunity that just doesn’t exist in many other states and is nonexistent on the federal level.

As an American living in Canada, I've felt like this since the GWB era. While I don't miss the US as such, I do miss Massachusetts, New England and the Northeast in general, especially the area around Cape Ann. Sometimes painfully. At this point I wish it were part of Canada.

I'm from Santa Cruz, CA. I grew up in NY, moved back to CA at 34. It took 10 years to feel like CA was home. I've driven across this country enough times in the last 5 years to know how much most of it hates me. I don't hate it back and they can't claim it. I am a patriot, painful as that is.

My home state (Michigan)? No, not really. Where I currently live (Virginia)? Ehh, kind of. My very Blue part of it, anyway.

I’ve lived in Northwestern WA for most of my life, and it’s always felt like home. Lately it’s felt more like a political identity because I can still be proud of things the AG/Governor have done. In the same way, I was pleased when I was in Seattle and represented by Jayapal.

Slightly different spin on it but although I was born in and have lived in America almost all my life, my parents were Canadian and I have increasingly identified with those roots (incl. obtaining official citizenship documents recently) - it was something I was embarrassed about as a kid

Alaska & has always been that way for me--it was extremely handy when I started traveling outside the country & lived in UK in the early 80's bc if you said "I'm from Alaska" (pre-Sarah effing Palin) huge % of ppl thought it *was* its own country or a part of Canada. And we did not correct them. 🇨🇦🍁🇨🇦

...sort of? Still American but not so rah-rah about it, perhaps. To some extent I've always identified myself as from "New England", even when I was living outside of the New England states. But it's still America.

(to respond to your follow up -- I think of myself as specifically from "coastal southern New England", meaning Rhode Island (where I grew up) and Massachusetts (where I lived for many years as an adult.) I'm kind of "from" both, and both are definitely America.

Yes and no. Proud to be a Minnesotan but I also know the best and worst of America exists in every corner of the country. Identifying only as Minnesotan feels like giving up on our better selves and denying our own shortcomings.

I’ve been this way since the mid-80s. Once we moved abroad it took me two years to realize how embarrassing it was to thump your chest claiming you’re better than the rest of the world. Now that I’m back it’s still state and city.

I would do anything to protect my home, which is everything west of the 5, San Diego to Bellingham. I couldn't care less if the federal government collapsed so long as California, Oregon, and Washington stay together

Hmm! It's difficult to say, because the state itself is a shithole, but I do find myself identifying a lot more strongly with my home city which is doing its best despite everything going on in state & federal government.

100% I’m proud to be a Californian more than an American. When I’m playing online games and get asked where I’m from, I always answer “California”. I got a flagpole just to fly the state flag.

Born in Santa Monica, CA and spent decades of my life living there and in the Boston burbs. Then a few years in New York City and now Atlanta. Somehow 10 years have gone by, with a TON of life drama in that time. But we’re still here. For now.

Depends a bit on what we mean by home state. The state where I was born, California? Sure. The state where I've lived the longest, Washington, why not? The state where I spent most of my formative years, Utah? Dear God no. I try to forget that ever happened.

Ironically I feel like I started identifying with my home state the most starting about ten years ago when I moved away from it. Nothing improved my perception of it and relationship to it more than just not living there anymore.

I can't even say I ID with my home state so much as a region within it. Like, Metro Detroit is a whole different place from the UP, which is even more different from downtown Ypsi-Arbor. Living in the U.S. is a fucking nightmare. Downriver? Living la vida loca babey.