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The obvious Musk-brain solution is ejector seats and I, for one, cannot wait to see how that pans out.

or they point it out but ... what could they know?

Teslas are pure junk!

It's better and much safer to set a cybertruck on fire without ever getting in it.

You mean lots of very rich people send their CHILDREN to college. I suppose money can't buy you taste. Cybertruck when they have so much money for something so much better. Sorry about their deaths though. Tragic for everyone.

Stand Your Ground laws but for trucks has been and continues to be the laziest form of counter revolutionary action marketed toward the most dimwitted suburban dads who want to cloak themselves in the working class aesthetic. It sucks so much ass, I hate it

It has never even made sense to me as a safe vehicle. How do you even see out of it?

Ok but could you not use smooth brain? It’s the same as the R word.

Don't poke your damn eyes out

It's weird how antifa completely disappeared after Charlottesville.

Four people died in Toronto when their Tesla crashed, caught fire and the doors couldn't be opened from inside. www.cbc.ca/news/canada/...

The cybertruck is a vehicle that has been designed by taking all the wrong decisions all the way down. MRAPs can be accessed from the outside to take soldiers out if they are set on fire/flipped. Vehicles that fail closed is just one of the stupid design decisions taken that will get users killed.

Who in their right minds designs a vehicle that can't be opened from the outside? WTAF????

One of the people who could most prevent the apocalyptic scenario he envisions would rather it happens and only the rubes who buy his dipshit toy care survive. What a cursed world we live in.

At this point bumper stickers are probably an attempt not to get it vandalized

cybertrucks do not

I feel like that's more applicable to 70% of Dem politicians than the base they purport to serve.

Because they actually enforce their safety standards.

Heartbreaking...

"The doors lock automatically if the vehicle catches fire" sounds like something Edward Norton's nameless, major car manufacturer employer in Fight Club would do. Does this count as Apollo's Dodgeball?

$100,000 personal crematorium.

Dangerous pile of shit.

Good thing we're doing something to get these dangerous vehicles off the road, right?

This vehicle is an embodiment of the death of Stalin. The same crippling fear cutting you off from the people who can help you.

What’s funny is they got pelted with Mardi Gras beads (which are made of plastic) and had to leave the parade route because the glass began to crack on the windows.

That angle also makes it pretty darkly ironic that they catch fire SO easily

Elon and his Tesla designers absolutely see Oakland (which surrounds the affluent enclave of Piedmont) as a war zone.

I don't think they died because the CT is designed "as a fortress". People have died in other Teslas for similar reasons (door release mechanism being too hard to reach, etc). It's because Tesla doesn't care about releasing unsafe products, nothing more complicated than that

Normally the question would be will a critical mass or just a few high profile deaths get these fucking shit cars off the road. But since the Pentagon is likely to buy up all the unsold stock to bail out Musk, we're likely just be recategorizing them as collateral damage.

Canada needs to ban these POSs from our roads. They are crappily-built death traps. I'm amazed that CDN insurance companies will sell policies on them.

And that garbage can exploding on fire? An extra thrill? What other car catches fire like that, in what otherwise could be a regular accident? I can't believe people pay $100,000 for that glorified Pinto.

And saying the thing is "apocalypse proof" when it's easily being destroyed and gets stuck in shallow snow, he's probably upset about that too.

He could have put in an easy to open emergency latch, and as far as I hear there IS one, but it's difficult to find when it should be obvious and bright yellow or something, but Musk was more concerned with what he thinks looks cool instead of what actually works.

It’s giving earthbound.fandom.com/wiki/Absolut...

He has the magic code to unlock any vehicle. He also records everything from the cabin. The fenders are blowing off because the glue failed. 4 college kids died in that crash. Sad and horrible. I’m not sure why the FBI director drives around in one that’s bright red with personalized plates.

As the incredible Geoff Berner sang in his song about the Maginot line... A perfect fortress makes a perfect tomb. www.youtube.com/watch?v=F90I...

how is this bullshit street legal?

Yup, also makes it nigh on impossible to get OUT of the thing when its battery pack spontaneously catches fire...

Honestly, destroying these things is an act of kindness

vehicular equivalent of the macho man fudd chud home defense fantasy when more of them end up shooting themselves and/or their families

How horrifying

I remember this being something people warned would happen. People baffled that the most obvious of safety features - being able to open a door to let people out in a crash - is not something you just take away, and it would lead to deaths. And Elon will learn nothing from this.

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Yes but I get the thrill each time I shut myself in knowing this could be my crematory coffin

truck tax. bought it in high school, still chugging along

a product of the same kind of brain that issues sidearms to police helicopter pilots like they're flying over enemy territory

I learned to drive on an island, where escaping from a submerged vehicle was an emphasized part of driver's ed. I value the manual windows in my vehicle.

Ayup. My spouse was in a collision with a semi truck years ago. She was going 70 kph when the truck turned in front of her. Her Mazda 6 crumpled like a napkin but she walked away without a scratch.

If your car doesn't have crumple zones, you are the crumple zone.

It's like they are TIE fighters and designed by a fascist with no thought for the safety of the operator. Shrill at any speed.

Now I'm just imagining someone going around spray painting "This Machine Kills Fascists" on cybertrucks.

I had a refresher course with a local Community Emergency Response Team a couple of years ago. The firefighters running it explained that the only way to reliably get people out of a Cybertruck was going to be using hydraulic cutters; and that's why they did not want them to be added to the roads.

You'd think the smartest guy in the world or one of his many highly-paid advisers would have read one poast once about century-old vehicular combat theory but here the fuck we are

aaaand they require a consistent means of resupply. Eventually things will run out, disease breaks out and people inside soon go 'Lord of The Flies'.

I mean if you're gonna go, you might as well go in one of the most ridiculously fun cars ever made

everyone who knows already knows that the most apocalypse proof vehicle is the KLR650.

I work in medieval studies, and all you have to do to note this is check out how medieval castles are situated. They are generally in positions of strategic importance, but castles in march areas like the Welsh/English border are positioned to project power as well as (or instead of) protecting.

Good to remember that it is impossible to create a vehicle that cannot be compromised or accessed. Its just a matter of time or technique. Something that a rescuer is less likely to have in the moment than someone wishing to do you harm. Its lose/lose

Even if it was a tank on wheels, it's still on wheels. Wheels can be popped. Once it's relatively immobile, mob wins over time.

Even an actual well built four wheel jeep can get caught up on debris.

so what you're saying is Elon Musk has put out a hundred thousand mobile Bastiles

That's why I only have a grey fortress.

He built an apartheid-mobile for all the white genocide he rambles on about.

I had an accident with my Nissan going 70 mph hitting another vehicle, spinning out almost into an embankment. The car was a total loss but I didn’t have any injuries, not even whiplash. The cop said the car took the damage for me and that’s what they SHOULD do.

This is part of why all those tiktoks (that are mostly just to get them to buy "safety" equipment they don't need) where they use the passenger seatbelt to secure the door and other stuff really scare me. You don't want anything making it harder to get you out of a crashed car than it is.

I remember probably 15-20 years ago now the actor Mark Harmon grabbed a sledgehammer from his garage to rescue a couple of kids from a very crumpled car that went into a pole outside his house. I want a car that a 50 year old can get me out of with a tool from his house.

cars should have IFAK equivalents by regulation, imo. just assume I'm going to have to save you some day in the middle of an active highway in deep fog and have some area of the undercarriage marked FLARE STORAGE so it doesn't rely on me having restocked mine

Doors are fucking heavy

What would you purchase if you had to buy a new vehicle today?

Is this an ad for or against the F150?

The location of the emergency release has zero signage and is unknown unless you RTFM Because a simple manual handle you pull to open the door from inside is one part too many for Mr. ‘Best part is no part’.

Yes exactly! I think about this all the time! There are certain car components that should be electromechanical, and in some cases purely mechanical. If the car completely loses power (a thing that actually happened to me in my first car), I need a steering wheel and brakes that still work.

Robert out here doing the literal hero shit sometimes. Cool People who Did Cool Things amirite

Same with an elderly lady who wrecked her minivan taking a turn on a country road and missed straight into a power pole. You want regular ass people to be able to bust through your vehicle's glass. Cuts and scrapes are far preferable to burning to death waiting on EMS.

Had to do something similar in the middle of the night when I saw a car that had run off into a culvert because the driver fell asleep after a work shift. The car was smoking and catching fire. If I hadn't been able to kick in a window, there's no way I could have helped her out of the car.

Sadly enough. Even normal modern cars are replacing standard tempered glass with laminate. Which as a first responder, the simple window breakers cannot shatter both panes. Argument is they are anti-theft. Cool and all. Except when Firefighters are trying to pull your limp body out.

Think about even a medieval fortress or really from any time period. You want to survive a siege you actually want lots of clandestine ways in and out for supplies and communication. You don't want a complete impenetrable box that you'll just starve in.

This would have never happened if Elon Musk listened to the song Forest Fire by Dead Kennedy's. Well, it would probably still happen but he would miss the point of the song.

In the apocalypse, no one will notice my unsuspecting Nissan Altima because it is indeed one of the most mundane vehicles on planet earth

it is not very pleasant to be sieged

Gosh, I hope my mommy van Pacifica will hold up in the apocalypse At least I know the kids won't ding any neighboring cars with the doors?

As Lt. Worf said, a siege mentality is ultimately self-defeating.

(not to mention very publicly aligning yourself with the most hated man in the world)

Morbid, but

The Tesla Folly

Horrible people fear everyone because they know they are feared for being horrible. It’s in their nature to assume everyone else is mutually fearful.

Tiger tank logic

Probably didn't occur to anyone that someone would design doors that needed power to open. They test well in crashes 😄

The regulations on doors opening after a crash are so shockingly lax to begin with, that's probably one of the few things he didn't have to use a bribe for. Before Tesla, it was pretty much just a gentleman's agreement among manufactures to make doors that don't trap you.

Teslas (all models) are more deadly than Pintos but with none of the press coverage 🤔

Remembering a book I read about 17th and 18th century Europe . Discussing the Dutch and their chief merchants, despite everyone else on the continent of the same wealth and social height, they still only ever dressed normal, rode plain carriages, and did not have massive retinues around them

videogame brain in action

"Back in the day" is now a long enough amount of time that cars absolutely were made better back in the day. I would rather crash in literally any way in a 90s Volvo than any modern top-heavy dipshit-ass SUV

You call it a fortress, I call it a death trap.

Been having "fun" conversations with the younger people I work with about things like this. "Yes, your front end was SUPPOSED to collapse like that! Otherwise it would be happening to YOU."

Elon is such an incomprehensible idiot.

"you are far likelier to need rescue from your own car than a mob." Have you considered the demographic of dudes who want to be entirely unlikable at all times getting trapped in a burning vehicle?

Just in case anyone needs a visual for “crumple vs no crumple” youtu.be/fPF4fBGNK0U?...

There are so many safety fails that the cyber truck are not legal on our uk roads. Feel sorry for family’s and friends that let loved ones into a what is death trap.

I saw a video once, where they did crash tests of a solid old ‘56 Chevy, or something from that era, and a modern 4-door sedan. After the crash, the ‘56 Chevy looked a lot better than the modern car, but the dummy in the driver’s seat looked a *lot* worse.

The lack of crumpling is just such a bad decision. First time one of these things crashes on the freeway it's gonna be like when Mañeo hit the Ringspace

and it can't even do normal truck things right. like a fortress built somewhere with no strategic value.