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Those goons will never do it.

That’s fun

How can their own sycophants take them seriously? The ice cream thing is just basic business stuff. You learn it in a marketing 101 class. Or, a night out on the town.

Xenophobia Lite

would be amazing Jay. all of those guys are fucking clowns.

“In 2023, the United States had the highest gross household disposable income per capita in OECD countries, followed by Luxembourg and Switzerland” Actually the most profitable country

America as a country is _highly_ profitable. He just likes to pick and choose which parts he likes.

Yes, I am wishing for America to default.

I'm still stuck on "if outsiders stop lending us money". Maybe the chuds that are running the US govt should stop doing things that would caution lenders from lending us money? Breaking the entire federal government seems like it would give lenders pause!

Yes.

No, but neither is wondering if things are necessary.

not any more necessary than seasoning on your food.

Not wringing my hands- just commented on the rudeness

Yes that, and DOGE isn't how you make the government more efficient or in this dude's stupid analogy more profitable. The Inspectors General they fired already were detecting fraud and abuse, for one, and were good at it (and could successfully add and subtract). DOGE is theater for dumbasses.

We've been in debt -- with 1 exception -- since the Revolutionary War. Haven't defaulted yet.

Deport him

Little drives me as crazy as these assholes pretending the government/country is supposed to operate like a for-profit business. JFC!

If you are running America like a business; are we not concerned about the brand?

ok so I'm wishing for America to default. I don't give a fuck if America defaults. burn this shit to the ground for all I care

Government supports the people it governs AT WHATEVER COST

100% CORRECT - Government supports the people it governs AT WHATEVER COST

Does he know where government revenues come from?

Once we update our product line and reduce our workforce we’ll be back in business!

Well, we could use the Democrat's idea of taxing the rich and before you know it, the US would be very profitable.

"I, a loan, can fix it"

Here's what paying taxes taught me about B2B sales:

Has anyone explained to this Moron that America wouldn't be "unprofitable" if the Billionaires paid taxes like everyone else?

Or maybe even a better example: if you decided to stop paying for public transportation to save money. (And you’re too far to walk or bike) and now you can’t get to work at all.

Also I think it’s worth noting that if you have a huge tax burden on that top bracket, and employees and infrastructure are tax deductible as business expenses, there is incentive to put your profits back into your employees and contractors rather than hoard it all.

I don’t know all the lingo. Are you talking about tax brackets.. like how currently you are only taxed 37% on income you make after 730,000 or whatever (and not on all of your income just because you hit that income level as people seem to think) ?

Good luck getting them to actually pay, though. They dont even pay the tiny amount of taxes they owe now, though I dont know how hard the irs was trying to collect

Stupidest people posting -- where does THAT happen!?

Back in the feudal days, countries tried to turn a profit, thus enriching their sovereigns. Then we had these revolutions, some quite noisy, & that shifted the paradigm.

People still quote Chamath? He should have just taken all his ill gotten spack $, gone away and STFU.

Either these people are the stupidest on the planet or they think we are?

As with everything in life it’s not what is done but how it is done. DOGE has already failed in every way it can in terms of execution. Result won’t matter much coz cultural scarring lasts forever. Money doesn’t.

Jesus, govts are NOT businesses! Please get this through the wooden heads at every biz. school. WTF!

To be fair, he is kind of an expert in loss-making shitcos.

If AMERICA is deeply unprofitable, perhaps it's because the CEOs of our most profitable companies are paying no taxes, while the poorest are forced to pay more from what little they have. Fkg idiot.

What would be deeply unprofitable, phrase not used to describe countries. point here is if you think it is bad now. Traitor's tax cut for rich will blow the lid off debt and add another 12 to 15 trillion to it. For the benefit of under 1% of usa. Cuts to svs would hit almost 50%, let that sink in.

No it's working as the creator intended. They want to guy everything and privatize government services.

you know you realize you're a True Adult tm when you see grown adults with authority making statements comparing the US to a company.

oh this guy again. would you believe for a moment people wanted to recruit him to run for president as a democrat? lmao

Yes, the only product this administration sells is citizenship.

These idiots pretend like they're economics savants but can't fathom the idea that the money is being lent against the promise of future economic growth/tax income.

Fuck this guy

Nobody should listen to these people

I deeply wish DOGE to not exist, in every way possible.

Anything but taxing the billionaires fairly to break even right??

Seems pretty profitable to Trump and co. As they steal all our money.

What’s the return on investment of a highway? How much revenue do we make from an aircraft carrier or an icbm? What’s the profit margin on social security or Medicare? These are ridiculous questions

There is no purpose for government to earn a profit in a free market economy. They want to return to a mercantilist model where the gov itself accumulates profits in order to have trade surpluses and a stranglehold on goods. This is the reason for Trump’s tariffs and imperialism.

Chamath Palihapitiya is the thing to say on a nice Hawaiian Christmas Day 🎶

Who was it built up that crippling debt?

Just a fundamentally dumb thing to say. No grasp that of what a country is, or does.

I mean it was built so that white guys can get wealthy by exploiting others. That's pretty much what a startup does. This kind of narrative is extremely coherent with what America is imo, they want America to be "profitable" by reinforcing the subjugation of others. Exactly how enterprise works.

They are cult followers of Yarvin et al, who sincerely believe democracy has failed and the republic properly should dissolved by mere presidential election, and want an empire of men not laws. They are the enemies warned in the oath found in 5 USC 3331 and elsewhere.

How about if we are hoping for them to be accurate? or to know their a$$ from a hole in the ground? Does that make us "unpatriotic"? If we were running it like a business, we'd hire f'ing accountants not the doge clown car of incompetence!!

One problem, Musk seems is more interested getting the regulators off his back, than DODE's questionable mandate. Feb 25 expenses were 603B, 36B more than Feb 24. Lets see what Mar brings. Government is not a Business. The approach so far is only on expenses, not revenue, here comes the Tax Cuts. 🙂

Uh, to the extent this comparison even makes sense the US is essentially the most "profitable" country in world history

Oligarchs want to grift off the fed gov’t. Role of gov’t is to ensure safety, protection, welfare of its people, meaning provide military, infrastructure, healthcare, education, regs protecting consumers. Fed issue money, not user. Corporations: profit at any cost.

Pardon my French but… People who want to “run country like a corporation” should holds they hands together and go fuck themselves. Countries are here to organized and crowdfund stuff we all need but we don’t need it on profitable basis because it makes profitable other things.

America is a cat must be treated like a cat, with dangled strings, toy mice and fresh litter.

These motherfuckers. And for funsies, let's say it did make a profit, who exactly who be the beneficiary of that profit? I'm guessing NOT the average American. 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

One way to get other countries to stop giving us money is to crash our economy.

These are the dumbest goddamn people.

America is deeply profitable if you are, say, under contract from the DoD.

JFC says the asshat who thinks duping people on SPACs is "being in the arena" Will no one rid us of the meddlesome priests?

What he is really saying is that he doesn’t want the government to monetise the debt & raise his taxes

A world that has a sense of assurance that things will be okay is more liable to trade, spend, and run the cash around, like any country that puts a safety net beneath its people.

When, in history, did it become a thing to expect govt to make a profit? It literally should not have surpluses and if it does, it shouldn’t be for long. Govt is for the collective good. We are not a monarchy meant to make our leaders wealthy. Govt is for the benefit of the people.

Obviously, that man knows nothing about the US economy as compared to every other economy.

Training a Large Language Model on whale song was an interesting idea, but it's time to accept that this is never going to meet any definition of 'intelligence'

Business weirdos when confronted with anything that doesn’t operate for profit

Isn't defaulting on your debts because you can't keep a wildly profitable business above water the Trump way?

DOGE isn't saving any money. They are just attacking anyone or anything they don't like or want to profit from. It was NEVER about saving money for the American people.

When has being unprofitable ever stopped some shitty tech company?

Government is NOT a business: - We care for the sick because it is humane - We educate our children because it is our due to the future The oligarchs have spent 3 generations trying to rejuvenate the idea that profit is the universal motive for all human activity. It simply is not.

If we don’t terminate everybody responsible for revenue collection, then we’re going to default.

This guy got to where he is due to the deeply unprofitable country of Canada where his family received refugee status, welfare support, universal healthcare and subsidized university tuition. But now that he has EDS — Elon Derangement Syndrome — it's time to burn everything down that lifted him up.

I’m beginning to think this moron has never run a country.

Michael Beckley's piece seems to refute the premise here - that somehow the US economy has been struggling or even is close to failure. www.foreignaffairs.com/united-state...

"If outsiders stop lending us money, we will go bankrupt" they say, as Trump and Musk work hard to get outsiders to stop lending us money, trading with us, investing in our stock market and businesses, traveling here on vacation...

There sure are. I just read the comments section of a Fox News article, and most of those idiots were claiming the courts has no right to limit presidential power. I’m sure they all think of themselves as constitutionalists though.

Ahh, incomplete thought that I can't edit. Slashing revenue and then saying you can save the business by cutting spending, but the revenue you lost is 2.5 times more than the spending you're cutting, is stupid af.

Mostly cause it's going to be unimaginably bad even compared to the low bar

“We aren’t making any money off the plebs is the problem” is the problem

The government is non-profit! If the government operated to be profitable, it could not have any programs for social/humanitarian needs like health, education, programs for the disabled/elderly, disaster relief, etc. Forget consumer protection, oversight of Big Pharma, and science/environment.

Can you explain to that genius that the party trying to have Musk to destroy government is the same party that paid for wars in the Middle East on a credit card, and gave massive unpaid tax cuts during Bush and Trump terms. Social Security is a separate program paid for by voters, for voters.

Play along with their “business mindset” for a moment… their answer is to cut entitlements and give more money back to the top 1% and *still* run an unprofitable business(deficit). Abject morons.

Good post

If they raised the tax rates for the wealthy & corporations, then removed their tax loopholes, the US could provide universal healthcare, free education, social security, childcare & still pay down debt.

Shouldn't even be a problem to go bankrupt under President Donald Trump, whose debts actually make him the Cleverest Business Boi

Send him here

Tesla is the canary in the coal mine, and very definition of a company whose valuation is based off of fairy dust, and wishes. They account for approximately 6% of car sales in the US, whereas Toyota accounts for 44% of US sales. Toyota however have a 248B market cap, whereas Tesla’s is 777B.

This is all performative. This guy is auditioning for some sort of position at DOGE or in Trump's government

DEFAULT TO WHO ASSHOLE?

Amidst all the concern trolling about default and debts, I never once hear or see any of these bamas propose raising their own absurdly low taxes even one red cent.

This ignores that companies like Uber didn't turn a profit for over a dozen years, and hardly have come close to recouping the money they spent.

Another foreign born tech billionaire F’em and send him home as soon as possible

Isn’t he supposed to be a SPaC king ? Those incredible financial products that seem to always be shit.

Reading something that opens with “make no mistake” was a mistake

Never centuries, that's how many.

Billionaire investor Chamath Palihapitiya says ‘nobody cares’ about Uyghur genocide in China I wonder how much investment he has in totalitarian surveillance genocidal slave state China? www.cnbc.com/2022/01/17/c...

That won’t please their big donors.

IF America ever has free elections again, doubtful, and if the Dems win power they should heavily tax billionaires & multimillionaires and get rid of their many tax loopholes & hire 3 times the IRS agents biden had to focus on them If they move overseas, tax their US assets even more heavily.

People who actually do care about America's financial situation will demand that corrupt billionaires give back this huge tax cuts that Crime Lord Trump gave them and himself & demand Musk & Trump stop looting the public good the government, to give even more tax cuts for billionaire oligarchs.

Tax the rich, ban corporate lobbying, overturn citizens united, remove most government contractors, cancel corporate subsidies, and nationalize utilities and essential services. There, fixed.