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again I know a lot of them, and unless I missed it, I've yet to see a single one of these free market think tank knobs face ANY meaningful reputational impact whatsoever in the Loper Bright, Supreme Court-driven, corruption free for all their policy proposals directly enabled

Make sure to add their replacement of the social welfare state with the Big Brother anti-liberty Palantir-enabled surveillance state

yup. bingo.

they selling it as the former but it almost uniformly winds up the latter. otherwise these guys would meaningfully challenge corporate power

Libertarians, Arrested development of a selfish adolescent mind

These prices adjust as more people are willing to pay more, so you simply cannot break out of the permanent strata of poverty guaranteed by capitalism. To libertarians though, capitalism is an ideal system that all just fixes itself somehow with zero regulation or compensation to eliminate poverty.

Well... It's usually pedophilia and slaves actually. Circuitously subsidized and defended by the US government.

Consolidation of telecom power results in utopia? Let’s see how unfair rate increases were handled by still-beloved left wing populist Huey P. Long while he was an attorney. Oh, he prosecuted them and got customers restitution? Huh.

At a young age watching Real Time and then clips of Joe Rogen, I learned Libertarian just meant I'm a republican that want's to smoke pot.

Libertarians after rallying behind Trump since 2015, saying “we told you so” as it’s revealed that Trump is a fascist (most of us knew this before he was elected the first time)

of course lots of ppl wouldn’t have jobs if we didn’t keep creating more & more bureaucratic red tape & the paperwork that goes along with that, so i do feel like a certain group of ppl aren’t exactly unbiased when they comment about libertarians 👀

I associate what’s happening now more with Libertarianism than Republicanism.

He's still very hard core, small 'l' libertarian, but also completely ignores a fundamental flaw of the small government piece of small 'l' libertarianism which I see as the fact that the Gov't has to be larger than the largest corporation in order to enforce rights - "quis custodiet ipsos custodes"

#exZactly and btw/also for the Nth time, Drumpf is NOT a Libertartian www.reddit.com/r/Libertaria...

If anything they're oddly silent now. Compliant or complacent you might even say.

Agree! This was the worst POS opinion that @nytimes.com has allowed in a long time. And they didn’t allow any comments. Libertarians’ definition of liberty is their freedom to do whatever the fuck they want to others and suffer no consequences. Forget justice and forget welfare.

Thank YOU!!

Libertarians are literally just republikkans that want to sound like they aren't in on it

Yeah, but Hartmann is useless.

They may pretend to preach the values of freedom, What they end up with if their ideology is played out to it's inevitable end is definitely not freedom 🤣

It's easy to lump them in with Republicans as they are some of the dumbest motherfuckers alive. www.c-span.org/clip/road-to...

As someone who is seeing public education dismantled and starved to death via no funding in our state, the Ls who believe utopia shouldn’t include an avenue for all to be educated can f off.

never met a libertarian who didn't know the age of consent in every state

They’re just as spectacularly racist as republicans. The mask of independence with the slime and stink.

You people need to storm the Democrats primaries to make sure you don't end up with another corporate owned asshole. You can do better than Gavin Newsome. You deserve better. This may be your only chance to get something better.

MAGA is as genuine as the Tea Party was. Both genuine populist libertarian astroturf movements. With overlapping parts and players. Imagine that.

For a split second I thought it said “librarians” and I was ready to shout “YES.”

100% on this. I always used to say Libertarians are just Republicans without the religion. And funny how pretty much 95% of them are now MAGA.

Excellent. Give the Jason Bournes a monopoly on violence and I'm sure it'll be fine. 😆 This one is my favorite. He keeps reinventing government. www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95m...

That, or they just deny anything that follows from their premise.

The subtext of ‘Don’t tread on me’ has always meant ‘Tread on everyone BUT ME!’

Well they aren't doing so well if you measure the "size" of government in dollars.

yes, we very well did.

it's true

These people.

Libertarians are Republicans who have a tiny, tiny bit of a soul left, so they know they are doing wrong, but still value their own desires above others, and so they excuse those actions.

yes, but more accurately probably retconning or lazy image rehab (because any honest libertarian free market type should know they paved the way for a ton of this shit)

10 years ago all Libertarians could do was bring out guys who wanted to make weed legal but couldn't handle questions or people who went "You're right we SHOULD finally find out the truth behind 9/11"

they're sort of telling the truth about the tariffs, but that's so not the whole package.

There is not a both sides. Ayn Rand was a sociopathic, malignant Narcissist.

I personally know two people who voted for trump more than once. When I confronted them because I didn't know they were racists, they both told me they were libertarians.

Notable their concerns are guns not children.

Proof positive that an opinion can be objectively false

I'm a lifetime LP/GP voter. Almost all the "libertarians" aren't. Those that are, sadly, mostly focus on economics, not liberty. The flaws in their logic are 1: corporations ARE NOT people, 2: anarchy sucks; there is a place for public goods. They're 🔥 on central banks and fiat money though.

The defining feature of U.S. libertarianism is its refusal to recognize its own boot print on the necks of others. So focused on its own license, it cannot imagine a world where its actions harm others.

libertarians are self-deluded liars. The day 'my protected airspace' or 'my protected water source' is clean and safe from the oil company or landfill immediately next door is the day i'll become one. Or 'my civil rights' are actually protected as in the Constitution - lots of other examples...

Amen

As a former libertarian, THE core idea is less governance. This makes socialism the antithesis of libertarianism. So in this case who did libertarians "tell so"? Nobody that's in power has any affiliation w socialism and we have a system of unfettered late-stage capitalism. WHO was wrong here?

The NYT always finds new ways to make me loathe them. Libertarianism is a fucking joke. It's MAGA for those who think they're too edgy and smart to be republicans. I guess I'm biased because every libertarian I have met has been a total moron.

💯🎯 Their bullshit is the worst!!

"I never thought leopards would eat MY face!" sobs man who voted for the Freedom From Regulations On Leopards Eating People's Faces Party

As someone who was once a conservative libertarian, and now is probably about a leftist libertarian, you’re absolutely right!!! they absolutely did no such thing! Retcon is right! All the libertarian party people in my area were the craziest more maga than maga authoritarians. Traitors to freedom.

No, you dipshits created this.

I've never once in my life seen a liberal go "Hmm, maybe we should rethink our approach." Never. Not once in my life. Just feel like that might have something to do with the current situation is all.

I mean they are called lolbertarians for a reason.

Neoliberals acting like they weren’t Hayek and Friedman automatons!

Exactly right. I didn't even bother clicking on the NYT link when I looked at the paper this morning: just more obvious drivel from the NYT fucking up yet again. Katherine Mangu-Ward is clearly a fucking idiot and/or liar.

Libertarians make bad lifeguards.

Wtf is happening at NYT? This is exactly why I unsubscribed. They turned from low key to high key bootlickers.

Libertarians believe freedom means not for all to be free of oppression, but for them personally to be free to oppress and exploit others.

All the “libertarians” I know voted for Trump. That’s a weird way to warn us.

Shitsticks and fuckworms, all of them.

*Libertarians never return the shopping cart.* Libertarians are all for civil rights, but don't like civil rights laws -- in the same way they are OK with labor unions, but don't like laws to protect them. In short, they have no problem with the Establishment stepping on civil rights and labor.

The dumbest person is whoever is the most libertarian. They love to say communism only works in theory but there’s entire communist countries. You can’t even run a small municipal govt on libertarian ideology without it turning into a dumpster

Same reaction. I’ve never met a serious (read over 19yo) libertarian whose beliefs weren’t just a thin veil for selfishness, racism, retaining one’s inheritance etc etc.

Libertarians: "We all voted for Trump because we were concerned about an authoritarian government trampling people's rights. And we sure were right about that second part!"

Is Haiti still the only country being run according to Libertarian principles?

My father is a self proclaimed libertarian, but also a very proud red hatter. He and a few others have led me to believe that it's just "closet right wing"

Communists can't even catch our breath because we get to say "we told you so" so often.

Libertarians really suck the dick of the bourgeoise. Thinking they are somehow the same as capitalist elite for attempting to be part of the petty bourgeoise. But often they are nothing more then pedophile apologists. Reeducation camps at best, gulags most likely.

I’m not going to surpass a paywall to read this, but I’m curious what they told us, exactly? Every Libertarian I know loves Trump

The Libertarians will be the ones snitching on everyone else when it gets even worse.

Libertarians wanted to keep Jim Crow.

It’s always been “don’t tread on me, except matters I disagree with”.

Nail on the head for all of it!

The loudest libertarian I know lives in an agricultural region developed and financed by the govt (roads, canals, reservoirs, etc) and has personally declared bankruptcy twice. Damn nanny state.

libertarians:

Stop giving attention to NYT opinion headlines! It was clickbait before clickbait was even a thing. If NYT puts opinion on it, you might as well just ignore it exists.

OMG thank you for this. 100% THIS!!!

"We have been obnoxious creeps and barely disguised bigots for decades now, and you all still didn't realize that we were trying to warn you of even worse Republicans that way!"

Not just libertarians. A heapton of billionaires, including Mark Cuban also. Billionaires love their crony capitalism.

I should've figured this would happen, that we'd start getting a plethora of people acting as though they were always against the bad things, actually. It's going to happen a lot over the coming years, and I'm already so fucking angry.

darwinism is NOT modern theory of evolution - it's a misinterpretation in the sense of survival of the strongest

Yup. Now look at how many of those rotten bastards are in the Epstein files.

I looked up Dunning-Kruger in the dictionary and it pointed me to this op-ed.

Libertarians are just assholes who don't want to pay taxes and don't seem to understand why we have regulations to protect everybody.

Libertarians want everyone else to pay for everything so they can have it all for free. Libertarians are selfish assholes

I wanted a real zinger about sticking their tri corner hats in their asses but I would get way too fired up about it. Bad for the ol’ blood pressure.

Good. I loathe a libertarian male.

It's like saying Hillary and Kamala warned us. Like yeah I guess so but they also were part of the problem.

Oh yes, I used to argue with them and I realized they’re really not that smart either - they’re really just right wing Republicans who think conservative Christians impinge on their freedom to party, but their racism keeps them from admitting it.

This is literally the outcome of when the trust in government and a sense of common interests all end up completely destroyed by years of “individualistic” bullshit

Except it's the logical progression...

Libertarians are nothing more than conservatives who are so ashamed of conservatism that they call themselves Libertarians. They are completely to blame.

I enjoyed season 5 of Fargo. Most especially Jennifer Jason Lee’s definition of a Libertarian. Just quoting it isn’t enough. Her delivery is perfection.

all these guys voted for trump in 2024. it was the worst showing for the nominated libertarian candidate in decades.

"The 2024 election results, which saw Trump absorb a significant portion of Libertarian voters . . ."