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best encapsulation why everyone hates democrats despite trump being the spawn of satan

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This is exactly the energy that explains why so many people sat home. She is part of the machine that excuses people like Cheney who led reckless decision making that made us less safe and killed our best and brightest fighting oil wars in the middle east. Saying nothing was an option.

i like how they cant even point specifically to a single positive contribution of his to society. just word salad about being a public servant with "a strong sense of dedication"(???). dems will sanitize every war criminal who held office including those in the current admin

Or even just “my heart goes out to his family” would have been fine. But no, they had to act like he wasn’t the worst thing to happen to the White House until the next Republican presidency

It's weird because you could just choose to say nothing. Yeah, the man died. You don't have to say anything about it. At all. You don't have to be a bitch. And you also don't have to be nice. You could just ignore it.

Re: Cheney Even if you don't (for whatever reason) care about 1,000,000 dead Iraqis, care about TRILLION$$ wasted on war. "The war drained trillions from the US economy, money that could have been directed toward infrastructure, education or healthcare." www.aljazeera.com/opinions/202...

aljazeera.comCheney’s policies as VP caused immense human suffering on a global scaleFraming him as a 'defender of democracy' simply because he endorsed Kamala Harris over Donald Trump is a moral failure.

They really think the only way to get Purple states and Red states to go blue is by appealing to the people who vote red, instead of appealing to the people who don't vote out of disdain for both parties and supporting the people who's votes are suppressed by gerrymandering and strong arm tactics.

Correction, I'm sure they're aware that there's other more effective ways, but those ways would require their biggest players to have to actually be left leaning or progressive, rather than Right but Blue and keeping their campaign funding from the private sector.

after voting in my first election in '00, I spent a month watching the cozy cadre of establishment jackasses who we've been stuck with for 30 years fn give up the fight. fuck off with this shit.

Chronocosmic Wizard@aespir.bsky.social

I was a freshly minted 18 year old, just so gosh darn excited to vote blue in my first presidential election Stayed up til at least midnight watching everything waffle ᶦᵗ ˡᵉᶠᵗ ᵃ ᶠⁿ ᶦᵐᵖʳᵉˢˢᶦᵒⁿ

shit show from the top down, all of all our lives

TrickyC (he/him)@trickyc66.northsky.social

I am reminded of one of the first presidential votes in my civic career - Bush vs. Gore. This was before mail in voting, so - at one of the most liberal universitiy districts in America - people waited in line for hours, only to be told - they ran out of ballots.

Once again the millions upon millions of White Americans are erased from any responsibility for electing a warmonger that they voted for. White liberals CAN NOT legitimately criticize the people who vote for the tyrants because they know the republicans are, at the end of the day, ON THEIR SIDE

I thought you had a job? Does that job not hold rigorous standards for factual information? Because I'd think a professor was supposed to be honest? Otherwise what the hell am I paying for if I might as well just listen to fucking InFo.WaRs.FrOgS.GaY.MP3

He killed a million people, Emily. Even if what you're saying was true, surely you'd agree that it's inappropriate to publicly sing his praises.

Ah, here's that old corporatist fever-dream: Nader-stole-my-Gore; Bernie-stole-my-Hillary. But who stole Kamala? Could it be Ralph again? Sure, he's 91 years old -- but Nader still controls the world's supply of lithium. Something to think about.

That is ahistorical. Gore capitulated to an obvious coup in order to maintain good relations with his Republican colleagues. If Democrats had ever had an ounce of fight in them, Cheney would have never held power, but they are spineless cowards that hate the left.

It’s about time you centrist propagandists finally examined the actual numbers and STOPPED THIS IMBECILIC, DISINGENUOUS PROPAGANDA. You lose because your candidates, your ideology (such as it is), and your integrity are all shit.

I'm not saying it was primarily the fault of leftists in either case, and I am also a leftist, but gloating about not voting for Kamala given everything happening as a result is an insane position of privilege

Almost no one is gloating we are pissed off that she couldn't cross the lowest bars in the universe of not allowing a genocide to continue with our tax $$$, or moderating on immigration, or saying trans people deserve human rights

you have seriously confused "gloating" with anger and despair of having told you so and having your ilk spit in the faces of everyone so you can be smug. what's it like having a cushy intelligensia job but having no curiosity nor critical thought? don't tell me, I don't actually care.

Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris for president. She touted it. Campaigned with his daughter. She tried to expand the “big tent” to the architect of the war on terror. A man whose actions resulted in the murder of over 4 million people. She chose this over leftist votes. Fuck them both.

Actually the privilege was saying that we had to vote for someone who not only embraced a uniquely prolific war criminal, but was pledging to commit war crimes herself.

you have the political instincts of a ham sandwich if you think trying to preempt right wing criticism is a valid reason to do or say anything. she means it, biden meant his statement, all the ghouls mean what they say about their fellow ghoul who died

You think she said this because she was worried Fox News would make her absence of a flowery condolence message for Dick fucking Chaney a month long scandal? Do you not see how that’s an incredibly unflattering reflection on her even for the version of her you made up?

Cool how she is aware enough to not post it on this site (despite having posted here just a few hours ago) because it won't go over well, but does it on the other one anyway. Fucking useless.

Indeed. Acknowledge the passing by focusing on remaining family members would be enough. Dick was a rich bastard who engaged in war crimes and lies. No need to glorify him just b/c his daughter took a stand against Repubes one time.

Dick Cheney was a war criminal and centrist establishment dems paying homage to him is part of why we have cheetolini in the WH. Y’all keep trying to appeal to the right wing instead of folks that don’t vote or the left. Sucks being bought and paid for by lobbyists and BIG donors.

Who else remembers him at the Obama inauguration in a fucking wheelchair looking like a poor, frail old man that you couldn't possibly think of prosecuting for his many crimes. He lived another 17 fucking years! 😬

And people like YOU are why our party is fucking garbage 🙄 People don't hate democrats... people hate those who straddle The Gray line, and we might actually get someone who's not a centrist if they ran Fair primaries 🤷 Harris didn't win ANY primaries EVER 😡

I can't get over this. Trump won because he had no problem declaring the system broke and blaming Bush for lying us into two forever wars. These Dems can't wait to insult their left flank and their academics by proclaiming fealty to said broken system and the very worst actors therein.

Cheney gave us ICE, the Global War on Terror, and the Unitary Executive Theory, all the tools Trump utilized these last 10 months. He's also another leader that should be in prison but isn't, a tradition that Biden followed when he soft peddled Trump's indictments.

So Kamala wants to come back and be the leader. Perhaps she is not looking to be the leader of the Democratic party. Not sure if its the disaffected Republicans or some independent coalition, but she's not going to be there for us. Maybe Harris will start a new party with Hillary Clinton?

yep all these folks out here like “vote blue save us from Trump” but it’s like if the blue candidates are just the same what are we being saved from? Democrats need to have actual positions, to the left of the Republican Party, to be viable and relevant at all

God DAMN am I happy that I didn't have to see the Democratic party of the 2020s live through the 1940s. It's absolutely stomach-churning to see these people lionizing the architect of the US's military field-torture policy.

Thing is Biden knew how and when to lowkey throw some dead asshole under the bus, deniably but pointedly—see his response to Kissinger croaking Maybe I’m missing something but this doesn’t feel like that