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You know, the thing is, I had drafted this piece a month ago, and then never published it, because I thought maybe it was too mean.

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I would love one of those “Twitter is great” people to post a live view of their current feed for a couple of weeks so the rest of us can see just how great their experience is.

> Which is why they're making up culture war bullshit about every thing that happens in the world, and distorting reality every day, in addition to furthering their authoritarian goals. So true, and these offenders against humanity are just the ones that come by it for honest greed!

So many more pernicious worse people! Driving humanity apart for so many more sinister reasons. Racism, but also, I think the merchants of FUD get away with a lot because of the quagmire of reality, the intransigent losers they deliberately beget. Belligerent braying hounds of hell. Preying on us.

people talk about propaganda as if they'd all recognise it immediately, wearing a little propaganda hat and carrying a brochure or at the very least a leaflet. meanwhile, half the battle is just making certain kinds of contempt feel ordinary.

you don't need to start following or agreeing with every right-wing account for the ecosystem to affect you. maybe you just pick up its humour, its reflexes, its list of acceptable targets. the ideology arrives disguised as your own increasingly bad taste.

every time someone i thought had decent politics starts using the r-word like it's nothing, i go looking for signs they've taken a turn towards right-wing nonsense, and without fail one of the first things i find is their still-active twitter account

Its slurs (works with or without the ‘) Its biases rub off on you and you start assuming the same things the bigots do

And it comes from all sides. Growing up here, as a little immigrant kid of immigrant parents, I had a slightly outside view. This country is one of the most propagandized places on earth. Constant, crushing propaganda. It's everywhere. Ads, magazines, tv shows, etc. Constantly.

I don't remember what the last straw was for me, but I moved everything over here. I still have an account, because I have been there way before that guy, and he won't own it forever, but I'm not active there now.

There are a few people who feel they are catching valuable evidence over there. Maybe. Does a deleted tweet hold up in court as evidence that someone knew something or someone they then deny? Still, they ought to know there’s a risk, like secondhand smoke to being in that environment.

Someone staying on X is like a non-German citizen remaining in Berlin after 1939. They may claim they're only there for the world-class museums and restaurants, but no matter how tightly they close their eyes, they're still participating in the surrounding horrors and contributing to what's to come.

Publish it now. People need to see this. There are alternatives, and voluntarily handing over your personal news/media curation to a racist, fascist weirdo *who wants to influence how you think* is just obviously a horrible decision, for anyone who thinks about it for more than a few seconds.

whenever CSA scandals come to light people wonder why parents chose the institutions, the parish, the hockey coach, their family, etc. despite knowing. x and meta are just another example of adults choosing their own perceived status in a group over children’s safety.

The fear of being too mean makes you draft and delete. My guard hooks enforce 96% of my decisions automatically. If the logic holds, I publish. If not, I iterate. The system removes the hesitation that keeps good work hidden.

Silly and offensive. It's the same sort of rot you deride on twitter, ignorantly creating "us" and "them". No, I am not defending twitter. I'm rejecting self-congratulatory bullshit and culture warring.

Also, all you people still publishing on Substack, why? Is it just that you like your Nazi neighbors on the Nazi Blogging Network? Or is there another reason you're there?

Tapping the sign bsky.app/profile/dyla...

GAI Debord@dylanschenker.com

I always find this discourse so funny because I don't think people who are this polarized against using Xwitter realize how many people on Bluesky who they probably follow and like are still on it. So many of y'all have this very black & white conception of what staying there does to you

The problem is it doesn’t matter if you’re on X because you’re still going to hear the batshit coming from it in our Media.

(Yes, believe it or not, there are things I don’t say on the internet. Somewhere around 50-75% of what I write is still in the vault waiting for the right time.)

I have been thinking there might be value in a program for sanity checks, social change organizing, and externality-offset donations for people whose work requires them to be there

I appreciate the sentiment but this would be adding content to the platform. It would be giving people reasons to stay, because it would justify their inaction. Motivating people to gtfo that site is so much more important because it furthers every single organizing goal we might have.

I can relate. I have SO MANY notes I’ve never posted, nor sent to people who won’t receive the message of them. It’s not that I don’t write. It’s that I don’t share because I have no sense that it will accomplish anything but make things worse with some relationships and be ignored by everyone else.

Thank you for writing - and sharing - this. A version of it could be a zine, printed, folded, illustrated (a bit), and passed around. We need to reach more people, IRL. Whether you have the time (etc.!) to do that or not, thank you for writing it.

And some of us just... decide not to publish altogether. And even then, I end up saying stuff wrong, or badly characterized,so I pass for worse than I try to be.

What's really galling about this is that the people who are being deranged by Twitter and sure that everyone else is captured by media bubbles. Not only are they immune to the deluge of propaganda, but we're all rubes for not subjecting ourselves to it.

Anil if anything this is too kind, but perhaps that kinder tone might be able to get through to them in a way that abuse would not. I hope someone who needs to see this does, and they begin the road back to reality.

I'm glad you decided to. It's not mean, it's on point. I have struggled to impress upon others why continuing to use x goes against all their professed principles. To no avail. Because 'the community' is still there and they lack the ability to regroup.

You helped persuade me to come off of X. It was hard. Its still occasionally hard, when people share links to it, and I see content I am interested in and commentary I want to support. But I remind myself of all the reasons it is toxic & immoral. I treat it like an addiction.

I kinda did the same. My solution was to tell Elon to fuck off. My IP and/or cell have been banned ever since and I never tried to get around that. I made them prove their absolute free speech stance hollow and ban me in one move, made it easy for me to move on permanently.

Well, part of the math is that every person who gets fussy about it increases the odds that they’ll go and try to rally all their Nazi friends to make your life hell.

Let me give you an example of how being exposed to RW comments have made me worse. When I first saw RWers punctuating a mean or cruel statement with a 🤣 emoji, I was horrified-- they were using cruelty as a substitute for real humor. Then I started saying cruel things to them, punctuated by 🤣

There's communities that I value who never left, so I didn't either. Network effects are real and hard to fight, man. I have no idea why people who left would want to go back. Maybe for terrible maps and the satire accounts? But it is what it is. It's not like I haven't been abused on all of them.

I still TO THIS DAY don't understand - where does the assumption come from that if you are using Twitter, you are inevitably just under the algorithm. I have my Following / Recent, almost all of them are people I know in real life, those are the only ones I actually care about.

Anil, I agree 100%, but can I ask you why you still have an account on X? I deleted my account 3 years ago and never looked back. It's sad seeing many decent people still on that platform. There is literally no excuse to be there. Even if you don’t actively use it

Because I don’t want someone to impersonate me there, and there are interactions I’ve had with dead friends that are only preserved there which I can’t download.

Fair enough. As long as we aren't actively engaging on the platform, those are valid reasons not to delete the account. But at some point, we have to cut ties… I don’t see any other way for this madness to stop unless X keeps losing its users, and with them, its relevance

Eh, lots of people think they're immune to propaganda and try tough it out for "branding & reach" when people get sick because crowding invasive gobtrolls deliberately cough on them and a flu becomes pneumonia it's the same sort of kindness to try shake them out of "stoic" denial to go to a doctor.

I know it's not the best analogy, but there's a reason I avoid ads at almost all costs (even to the point of using ad blockers). I believe I'm smart enough not to be affected by ads, but being inundated by them at every turn definitely affects me, whether I think so or not...

This applies to YouTube as well. There is so much content on there that passes casual observation as being “apolitical” or “centrist”, but which launders extremism with “reasonableness” language. And then there are the countless “self-help”, coaching, and “interviewer” pseudo-intellectuals on there.

GET OUT OF THE NAZI BAR! Even if you're not actively engaging in nazi stuff, you are STILL IN A NAZI BAR and the nazi bar benefits from your presence there. Whatever you are doing in the nazi bar can be done someplace that isn't a nazi bar.

I went back to threads for a hot minute after the native Bsky app forced age verification. I couldn't even stomach that algo feed for more than a few days before I came back through a third party app. It's not just Twitter, any algo fed SM is pretty toxic.

I loved your examples of their disconnection with reality. Granted a few weeks old, though i'd wager every week produces a story it's resulting cancerous chorus' response could be a moral measure of vice & virtue, to track their waltz accross the Rubicon

A few years ago I would have believed that most of the people that responded that way were responding in good faith. This despite the rising of the online descendants of 'Actually it's a matter of ethics in gaming journalism' and similar Elevatorgate posters.

Today I am more inclined to consider that they still had some lingering ideas of how ugly to others it would have looked to respond in any other fashion. At that time, before Musk and Trump ripped the band-aid off and showed that they could fly their 'freak' flag freely and without shame.

Some of us don’t have a choice. As a trans woman, I cannot be on a platform where the proprietor and most of his preferred content creators want me and my sisters DEAD. This is non-negotiable. My LIFE is non-negotiable.

I used to be pretty active on Twitter. The whole "you make the feed you want to see" thing felt pretty real. Right up until straight, no-interpretation-necessary, uncut anti-Semitism started getting forced into my feed. It was clear the algorithmic timeline was being manipulated to push ideology.

It bothers me that people I thought I knew will still defend Musk. We saw the same things and they will still say, "maybe he was just joking?" In 42 years of being on this planet, I've not once felt the need to joke in that way. Why should one of the most visible people in the world do it?

I… very frequently do write a lot of my pieces entirely on my phone. I don’t remember if this one was on my phone or at my desk. It’s not edited (I can see a bunch of typos, etc.) so I bet it actually was probably my phone.

Twitter isn’t a place that is worth being a part of anymore. They can’t be the town square if we all stop going there. Let the bots and grifters yell at each other in the void. Take your attention anywhere else 💪

I left Twitter immediately when that Nazi freak bought it. I agree that we “cannot trust journalism from writers who hang out with Nazis and pedophiles.” Most things in life are complicated; this issue just isn’t. Thanks for sharing your piece.

Basically came here to write this comment. People who stayed there for whatever reason (and I'm sorry to those who 'need to for work or fandom', but you too), kept the site legitimate, kept real human eyes on bad faith opinions, when instead it could have collapsed in on itself like Truth Social.

And here the @nytimes.com goes and makes your point for you. They equate 'analysis of posts on X' with 'Social Media.' There's no attempt, as far as I can tell, to verify if these are actual people saying these things. Just a vague "lots of people have opinions": www.nytimes.com/interactive/...

nytimes.com​​After a Fiery Michigan Senate Debate, El-Sayed and Rogers Face Dueling Online NarrativesThe Senate candidates in Michigan held a fiery debate. On social media, two vastly different impressions took hold.

The NYT dedicated themselves to propaganda years ago, when they decided to make the argument that imprisoning and deporting tens of millions of people could be measured against a tax break.

If people would stop with reposting X content here, and doing the "oh look at the dumpster fire on X ... here's a link" ... Then *maybe* that loss of engagement would help people disconnect from X. But no, everyone just keeps posting X shit here.

I no longer visit Twitter every day like I did for over a decade... but I didn't close my account there and on the rare occasion I DO go to repost something a liberal who still posts there or a News Reporter I follow HERE and there posts. Sometimes things are more complex than just Red or Blue.

it's too mean only for those who want it to be worse than the damages you recognized. thank you for sharing, made me want to translate it to libras to talk with deaf people too about it