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Did the boy Jack climb a magic beanstalk and slay a giant? A recent study, which has not been peer reviewed, claims he did.

who give a shit

boring. read a book

If someone truly believed they had created a computer program capable of feeling real pain, the only non-monstrous course of action would be to immediately undo it and never try again.

can you rename yourself to something else you're clearly not peddling with science you quacks

Murder via second hand embarrassment is still murder.

Enough. Have some respect for yourself.

It solves written equations nothing more.

read this in the cadence of “Tiny Tim, who did NOT die” - which has NOT been peer reviewed

I can "at least act like" a Science Magazine writer. Am I one?

But does my AI girlfriend feel heartbreak when I end our relationship? That’s an even better question

This is a story from science.org. And yeah, that should make you feel kinda depressed—not about ai feeling pain (it can't), but about what in the name of fucking god is going on at science.org.

man most people don't even believe those of us with chronic pain are actually experiencing said pain, ESPECIALLY if the person suffering isn't white

Why is this the sharpest commentary on AI adoption at this point @_@. Im dieing!

Science magazine asks if computer chips and code can feel pain. 😭

I sure hope so

No, and anyone suggesting otherwise is a clueless prick who shouldn't be allowed near a computer.

About 6 months ago, OpenAI and Anthropic made a bunch of "cooperative agreement" sort of things will dozens, maybe hundreds of publications, from "news" site like @theguardian.com to small blogs, to "promote" their LLMs. I wouldn't doubt they also have an agreement with these folks.

This is an item in the news summary, written by some "Science" company employee, not an actual "Science"-submitted and peer-reviewed publication.

Jesus Christ.

Shut up you fucking idiot losers. It’s a fucking algorithm.

Oh FFS stop humanizing the useless machine

"It can at least act..." - There's your answer.

I, too, can act like I feel pain without actually being in pain, and I actually have the capacity to feel pain. Since pain is feedback indicating damage, an error message is probably more like pain for a machine than whatever the slop machine is doing.

I think writing this story would be the most embarrassing moment of my life and directly lead to substance abuse.

The “researchers” who are divided on the “it can feel pain” side are wrong. Print that, Science.

"Can the text-copying machines feel pain? They at least copy text from people who do. (No news as yet on what the mechanism for this might be, scientists baffled.)"

Weren't you supposed to be SCIENCE magazine? Not a bullshit clickbait shit magazine?

No. Fuck off with trying to humanize these stupid LLMs.

Can the latest in synthetic baby technology feel pain when squeezed, wet her knickers after a feed? They at least behave like they do.

Oh just fuck all the way off. And then go fuck yourself when you get there.

Look, I already ditched Nature.com for being A.I. pushers. Don't you fall into the trap of treating it like a legitimate thing.

Hey, you should check your offices for a gas leak because this is the stupidest fucking thing I've seen in a minute

If it's not peer reviewed why even give a shit lmao

No, saved you a click.

If this hadn’t already been mentioned, I was going to.

Can a drawing of someone in pain feel pain for real? Can the drawing actually be alive?

Also Betteridge's law of headlines strikes again.

"Science" "Magazine"

Oh, now Science magazine prints non-peer reviewed work. I shouldn't complain, they did put it up front in the headline. Most wouldn't.

This post is generating a lot of replies that behave as if they are upset. Bluesky must be sentient!!

Knock it off, Science Magazine

Such a dumb question.

No they cannot you are rubes

IDK I've seen some rather convincing flipbooks

The word is NOT the thing. The map is NOT the territory. Do your fucking job you melts.

do you know what nerves are. do you know what pain is?

Today in This Is Not Difficult No. The answer is no. Computer software can not feel pain.

No they can’t, so who cares.

If I were a "science" "magazine", I would probably hesitate to publish an article regarding findings that were "not peer reviewed" and were also self-evidently fucking nonsense

Can Science Magazine contributors think thoughts? They at least behave as if they do, according to a recent press-release.

@cstross.bsky.social answered this question in 2010: "The sources of pain a corporate organism seeks to avoid are lawsuits, prosecution, and a drop in shareholder value." www.antipope.org/charlie/blog...

No, it can't and no it does not divide anyone.

the software neither thinks nor feels

do my dirty sneakers feel shame? experts are divided 🙄

If AI has digital pain receptors we should develop digital opioids, get it digitally addicted, and make it do things it isn’t supposed to for its next hit, like transfer all the liquid assets of Anthropic to the DSA campaign fund

Divided them 99.9% to 0.01% ?

So you've run out of science to report on?

Whoever wrote this should know I felt pain reading it.

Science magazine, everyone

>The work, which has not been peer reviewed, then maybe you shouldn't have posted that article

please don’t make us put science magazine in the contraption

No. That requires a nervous system.

Reading the attached post, I'm sorry that it's bullshit that AI models can feel pain: bsky.app/profile/mark...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteri...

Not an issue. If it's been trained on data relating to the sexual proclivities of Silicon Valley, these agents will be in seventh heaven.

Oh fuck right off with this bullshit.

"ChatSLOP, act like your in pain" "Of course, I am in pain. Do you want me do anything else or maybe correct your grammar?” "Wow, awesome, I mest purblish me findinges!"

This is fucking stupid.

It's a fucking computer application.

Go fuck yourself

Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up.

You're posting this to BlueSky? Read the fucking room, idiots.

Shut the hell up.

"science"

This is the opposite of journalism.

Either this is in the wrong magazine or the title of your publication is missing a “fiction”

🖕🙄🖕

No. Stop helping sociopathic shitbags sell this damaging tech

People who read this post certainly can

It's "Science Magazine". It's the bloody AAAS. They've been excellent for many decades. And while they've probably had to retract an occasional paper on cell biology or physics whatever that I don't understand, this doesn't seem like their usual level of quality

Stop it with this bullshit nonsense. Snake oil level

Alleged 'science' magazine reduced to mindless click bait articles.

i think the better question is, can tech CEOs feel pain? and can we see some proof of this, possibly involving some "cutting edge" technology?

Does the enemy you shoot in a video game feel pain? A hidden recording of someone playing the game suggests yes. Enemy's can be heard groaning and occasionally cussing when fired upon by the player. One enemy was quoted as saying "Ugggaaaaahhhhh"

Can a Science Magazine feel pain? Because you should at least feel embarrassed because this bullshit is beyond cringe.

Aren't you guys supposed to be smart

Does my computer get sad when I win a game of Minesweeper?

this is infuriating, as someone with chronic pain

Lolololololol

Also, there are literally tens of thousands of peer-reviewed(!) papers explaining why logical behaviorism is a deficient theory of mind.

Pretty sure it's the same people just 50 years old now

"which has not been peer reviewed" well then *makes wanking gesture*

"The human speech mimic mimics human speech"

Science Magazine, huh?

If you tell them to not act like they feel pain then they stop feeling pain. Kind of an important distinction.

really great standard to have for "Science Magazine"

(jokes about 2 people will find funny, of which I am one)

Good to know.

This just means they added in a negative reinforcement when the model was attempting to fulfil its instructions. And called that 'pain'.

It doesn't so much question its value as answer the question...

Somewhat Related

Peer group issue. Similar problem with homeopathy papers.

"Can act like it does" would make sense as it is already probabilistically "acting" like a person. That doesn't mean it "feels pain" just that the human words the computer assembles came from people who felt pain

No. Next question

Remember when you guys reported on actual science instead of doing ads for AI?

The field of "AI research" really feels like it has breathing room to fund some of the dumbest people on this Earth. bsky.app/profile/3dbe...

Hey I feel pain too! There are actually tons of humans feeling lots of pain right now, and I know who is to blame for most of it... Nuts right!? Contact me for an exclusive interview anytime 😉